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GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Go get those lumberjacks to cut down that forest… wait a minute… they won’t do it unless someone pays them??? Really? But they will own the lumber… oh they don’t need that lumber? Oh man. I guess no one owns that lumber and no one is gonna cut it down then. If only there were some way to get those guys who are experts at cutting down trees to cut them down. Then wed have lumber to build houses… but wait- the guys that know how to build house wont build them? But since they don’t wanna do it I guess there’s nothing to be done. Since… ya know… paying people for their work is not valuable and apparently inherently worthless.

We had houses before we had money, dumbass.

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Firemyth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Yeah… we so were tribal nomads without society at all… so I guess that’s what you want?

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- betelgeuse@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Wait, just so we’re clear on the timeline of human development. There were tribes and no society. Then there was the industrial revolution, English Common law, and then now?
  
  You really, really, need to study history. You’re missing a few thousand years there. That’s probably why you’re confused. You really do think humans were savage tribes before 1492.
  
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  - Firemyth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Again this is apparently your story. Just making things up because you don’t have a relevant point I guess is what we are doing now?
    
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- GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  When Rome was established, city walls built, aqueducts constructed, complex trade networks established, no one was being paid a wage, but that was certainly a society. They eventually got money and used it, but it wasn’t essential to running a society and still isn’t.
  
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  - Firemyth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Uh… I think you might want to reevaluate that particular analogy. Maybe look at HOW Rome was built… also WHEN money was a thing.
    
    I mean unless you are advocating literal slavery as a means to build things.
    
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    GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    “when” is irrelevant, it wasn’t in use in the city until later. The general point was that labor is done for reasons beside wages, and you’re deluded by modern capitalism into thinking that they aren’t
    
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