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captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

I’ve gone on this diatribe about PIxelfed’s onboarding process, where they have a website that says “This page will help find the perfect server for you” and then is designed to present as little meaningful information about each server as possible. Looking at join-lemmy.org, it’s marginally better. “You can access all content from the Lemmyverse from any server, so it doesn’t matter which you choose” 1. not strictly true and 2. if it doesn’t matter why make the choice?

Here’s a question I have, because I’m honestly not sure: Let’s say most of the communities I’m personally interested in are on example.lol. But my account is on sh.itjust.works. How much am I burdening sh.itjust.works by mostly reading and posting to example.lol? Would I be decreasing people’s operating costs if I just opened an account on example.lol so most of my interaction was on my home instance?

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Die4Ever@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Would I be decreasing people’s operating costs if I just opened an account on example.lol so most of my interaction was on my home instance?

Likely no. If one person on the instance is subscribed to a remote community, everything is synchronized anyways. If no one is subscribed to the remote community then it’s probably a very small and low activity community anyways, which means it’s a drop in the bucket difference.

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- captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  So is a large part of lemmy.world cached on sh.itjust.works’ server? Does Pixelfed, Loops or Peertube work the same way? I could see images or video being more of a burden to serve like that. Or does AP sync the metadata like thumbnail, video title, description, comments etc. and the video itself is torrented straight from the host server?
  
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  - meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Pretty much, yes. Images is cached. Video is not. However PeerTube supports P2P.
    
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blackn1ght@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

“You can access all content from the Lemmyverse from any server, so it doesn’t matter which you choose” 1. not strictly true and 2. if it doesn’t matter why make the choice?

This is a great point. If it doesn’t matter, why not randomly assign you to an instance? The reality is that it does because some instances are political, and some federate with other instances that could give a negative impression of Lemmy. By people recommending particular instances to sign up to, shows that there’s an element of calculation as to which instance to pick.

Onto your second point, your impact would be negligible. I wouldn’t worry about that scenario.

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- captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  I could see a “choose for me” button, kind of like installing an OS where you can go with the automatic stuff or set it up yourself. I think you’d need several instances to get with join-lemmy.org to volunteer to be one of the ones that would sign people up for.
  
  Folks who want to sign up for a specific instance in order to create or maybe moderate a community there almost certainly won’t go to join-lemmy.org for that, they’ll just go to that instance.
  
  There may need to be a "Hey could we cool it with the fukpolitik’ agreement to be on that random sign-up list; I’m not sure I’d drop random folks into ex-Hexbear or whatever.
  
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skbbyc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I guess even though you would be reducing their costs, in the spirit of the fediverse getting back to the internet’s roots, changing your instance based on the communities you interact with would kind of be like moving to a new email account host because most of the people you email are using it, which isn’t really a good or bad reason so much as a personal decision based on what you value.

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