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neatchee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There’s a problem when they have a sort of diagonal integration into the industry, as they’re kind of pulling up the ropes from competition while monetizing the product. It reeks of looming antitrust.

  If I want to distribute billions of videos to billions of people on my own site, that’d be great, but my options are basically to pay Google, Amazon, or Microsoft for help.

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  • neatchee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m happy to talk about antitrust and breaking up conglomerates. But that needs to be a big conversation across many industries not just “Google bad, grrr”.

    If you’re referencing WEI, btw, it is one of the topics people have been most misled about. Can link you to my Mastodon thread where I break down all the misunderstanding if you’d like

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    • postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s no overarching anti-trust conversation to be had because there’s currently no anti-trust cases, if there ever will be. The comments under each individual instance of it being required is the “big conversation”. As a content aggregation site (mainly news) the only place it could realistically occur is under some wishful thinking self-post nobody would care about.

      I also saw people pine for trust busting just the other day under some Amazon article, there’s simply nowhere else to post about it at the moment.

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      • neatchee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I meant to say that I’m much more inclined to have conversations with people about the need for stricter antitrust laws and enforcement than I am about a single subsidiary of a multinational corp. protecting their revenue stream

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  • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t understand this comment at all. Hosting your own video is actually super easy. HTML5 video is as simple as HTML5 images. It’s just the cost factor.

    You can do it all without the cloud as well, you just have to actually go buy the servers or rent them from traditional virtual private server hosts. Not everyone has gone to the cloud.

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    • foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes please recreate YouTube with html5 And make sure a billion users can access billions of videos at all times with your static HTML site.

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      • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You said on your own site. The fact that YouTube exists and makes that easier isn’t the argument against YouTube you think it is…

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• AeroLemming@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s a lot more complicated than that because they are not entirely service providers, but service facilitators. They do not make the content, they merely distribute it, so they are only responsible for part of the service provided.

  The result of this is that independent content creators often only upload their content to YouTube and not its competitors because it’s the most popular platform, which means that consumers are forced to go to YouTube in order to get the content from those independent creators, which makes the platform more popular, so more independent creators only upload there…

  I would be inclined to agree with you if we had half a dozen competing video sharing services that creators all uploaded to, but as it is now, YouTube has an almost-monopoly and they’re squeezing hard because they can. If YouTube didn’t exist, it fould allow better services to exist. They don’t exist in a vacuum.

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  • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay, but those independent content creators are often doing this trying to make money.

    YouTube actually does have a pretty fair deal for “if you make us lose money, we won’t charge you” and “if you make us money, we’ll give you 55%.” That includes increased revenue to those creators if you subscribe.

    Getting in the way of monetization here isn’t just hitting Google’s bottom line, it’s hitting those creators using Google’s platform as well.

    I used ad blockers for YEARS until YouTube added a paid option and once I started using YouTube more (again) I went for that option quickly. I switched my mentally a few years ago to “if it’s not worth paying for, it’s not worth it” and that cleared a lot up for me in terms of priorities.

    An aside but, I’m extremely annoyed with the pro-piracy, anti-paying game modders, and general anti-giving people money for the work they’re doing attitude that I’ve seen on Lemmy (and in gaming communities) recently. It’s like everyone wants to be paid a six figure salary when it comes to their life and then they want to get everything they enjoy on a computer for free.

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    • AeroLemming@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      YouTube premium is as much as some professional streaming services. It’s an insane price. Creators get (depending on who you ask) somewhere between $0.003 and $0.018 per view with ads, so with 55% of premium going to creators ($7.7/mo), you’d have to watch between 428 and 2,567 videos per month. That’s a fucking LOT.

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      • neatchee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The hell are you talking about? Premium is $13.99/mo, removed all ads, includes YouTube Music with all it’s licensed music, among other things. What exactly does your math represent? The amount of hours you’d need to watch to generate revenue equal to the cost of the service? That’s a ridiculous thing to base your calculation on. If you think watching ads is such a better value than Premium then watch the damn ads?

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because their revenue stream comes entirely from destroying our privacy throughout the entire internet?

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