Comment on Yeah, let's stop with this "don't judge people for their poiltics" bullshit

Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Your message is true, but your stats are off. Trump only got something like 15% of the total voting population in the US and won by like 1.5% of the vote. Studies say that historically, 60% of Americans are more liberal than the government - and that includes when Democrats have been in power.

  Conservatives are a minority, and the MAGA crazies even more so. They just shout really loudly to convince everybody that they’re a majority. The real issue is that 50% or so of Americans simply don’t care enough to vote against fascism or care more about maintaining the facade of order than freedom. Like MLK said, the biggest threat to equal rights isn’t the white supremacist, but the white liberal who cares more about a negative peace than true justice.

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  • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Your numbers don’t seem right to me. He got ~45% of registered voters and ~28% of adults. Where’s your 15% from?

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The tools that were used to drive Germany to madness are much the same we’re seeing today. A lot of that first 1/3 is being bombarded with mass media saying “Black people are trying to kill you! Leftists are trying to rob you! The Evil Biden Government is trying to transgender your children!” over and over and over for decades on end.

  This isn’t just Americans waking up one morning and deciding to be MAGA chuds. It is a product of two generations of intense right-wing propaganda through every avenue of mass media.

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  • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s also Americans not doing anything about it for the last two generations. The right-wing propoganda machine has been a threat for literally my entire life, but it has been allowed to complete its ultimate goal without anyone actually trying to stop it.

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    • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh boy, I am seeing it first half my country. An old friend of mine shares right wing propaganda several times a day, and doesn’t matter how many times I try to counter argument - he just doesn’t care. No reply, no reaction, no nothing. Not even responding to DMs.

      Lost cause these people, and I’ve got better things to do than driving two hours just to knock on his door and talk some fucking sense into him.

      At least I am getting positive reaction from people who see what kind of bullshit he shares.

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      • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I honestly think the answer has to be banning the content. I don’t understand why we allow people to lie and demonize minorities on the internet and TV, it seems pretty obvious what giving a platform for hateful ideology leads to. For Americans, this level of censorship was a bridge too far, but hopefully other countries realize that it’s a necessary bulwark against the rise of fascism.

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  • stickly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s the one thing that gives me hope: their views changed radically but only in one generation through concentrated, directed effort. Calling people idiots or sheep misses the point that this is the natural result of exposing people to this shit daily. Nobody in history ever thought people are inherently rational and considerate, society is held together through a culture that reinforces it. The tools of the information age can rapidly and drastically shape our society however we want it, we just need to pull them out of the hands of those billionaires burning civilisation to the ground for their own benefit.

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