Comment on Valve ban advertising-based business models on Steam, no forced adverts like in mobile games

Obelix@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They are not, but they could have made it so. Instead they chose the win for everyone.

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Two things can be true at once:

    1. valve so far took tremendous care of the people using their product. They have outclassed afaik every other billion dollar company in the world in terms of listening to their customers and not exploiting them to hell (as others do).
    2. billionaire companies are cancer. If gabe ever gives up valve (through death or whatever), we are at the mercy of a monopolist that can extract as much as they want.

    My conclusion: force companies to behave like valve does now, but forever. Let them make money without exploiting people. And in case if valve: break any monopoly.

    Down with shareholder value.

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    • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a very good bill for achieving this result by a senator from my state, which requires companies to elect their board members through employees.

      wbur.org/…/warren-co-determination-capitalism-act

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      • Agrivar@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        She’s my senator as well, and I love what she’s doing - but THAT bill is ~7 years old and dead in the water given the current administration. :-/

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      • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That would be a great solution. Another would be to put quotas of employees, customers, owners and the community (people living around a plant for example) in there. Just an idea though.

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  • Zacryon@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If the “win for everyone” includes shipping a game as microtransaction-based instead of ad-based, I doubt it’s really a win. Microtransactions usually come with dark patterns and rely on techniques from the gambling industry.

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• reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  something like this would also harm their business in general, like letting someone take a shit on the bakery floor.

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  • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Garbage like that has no place anywhere.

    If app developers can’t get money from paid apps, then it makes sense to run ads. Especially if they do offer a paid (ad-free) version.

    But if it’s a paid app already, like in Steam, it should definitely be ad-free.

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