Hetzner Cloud
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bretton.dev@coves.social 18 hours agoAnyone have any recommendations?
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 7 hours ago wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 18 hours ago
Hetzner was good for me, but I went all-in on bare metal, with no looking back.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Hetzner recently skyrocketed the pricing of their VPS offerings.
Nilz@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
How did you do that, self host? Co-locate?
wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
I may need to do a proper write up on that one, as it’s quite a long story actually. The main thing is, though: it’s hard to believe how actually good modern hardware is. You can do a lot with a Raspberry Pi, not to say Mac mini. Over the decades, I accumulated some old hardware which serves till it would break. And then I’d replace it with similar hardware, I guess. E.g. I have a media server, which is a simple lighttpd web server running on an obsolete Intel Atom computer. It’s slow, but it does its job at serving files. I have old MacBook Pro hosting my Immich library.
All that is rather a self-hosted territory, but I’m pretty confident I can host a production grade stuff off my own hardware. I have been using the cheapest options at DO/Hetzner, so I definitely can host off a maxed out Mac mini or similar.
All that lives at home, or in the office (I am allowed to have some hardware there). I think the main restriction is the gigabit internet… but hey! That’s plenty too!
If I’d ever come to some serious level of hosting, yes, I think I’d co-locate at some data centre. I see very little need in cloud services, as all I need can be done with the bare metal. And it’s so much fun! Feels like magic, seeing an old laptop you’d throw out otherwise, serving as what would be a full-blown server just two decades ago.
moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 6 hours ago Their auctioned baremetal servers are a steal
dan@upvote.au 15 hours ago
My guess would be renting a dedicated server, or a home server. It can end up cheaper than colo.
self host?
Hosting at home, renting a dedicated server, or colocating are all considered self-hosting.
sculptor0725@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
OVH has been reliable and boring afaik
AHorseWithNoNeigh@piefed.social 18 hours ago
I thought RackNerd had a better deal for me than digital ocean
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago Check out Linode, it’s easy to use, reasonably priced, and as far as I know, hasn’t done anything disgusting.
Only downside is that they were acquired a little while ago by a publicly traded company, so the likwlyhood of enshitification is higher.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Linode? You mean Akamai Connected Cloud?
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago Whatever their rebrand is these days lol.
westingham@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago I’m looking at Linode currently
dan@upvote.au 15 hours ago
They’re reliable, but overpriced for what you get, especially after the Akamai acquisition. Akamai are not known for affordability :)
dan@upvote.au 16 hours ago
I use GreenCloudVPS for a bunch of things. They used to have VPSes starting at $15/year for 2GB RAM and 20GB disk, but their current budget deals are still good (starts at $25/year for 4GB RAM and 35GB disk). These are on older hardware (mostly AMD EPYC Rome Zen 2 systems, ~5 years old) which is why they haven’t been affected by increased RAM and storage prices yet.
greencloudvps.com/billing/store/budget-kvm-sale
They also have “premium” plans which are newer (AMD EPYC Milan Zen 3 or Genoa Zen 4, and PCIe 4.0 NVMe storage in RAID10): greencloudvps.com/billing/store/premium-kvm-sale
I suspect they’ll eventually increase the pricing, but I’ve been using them for five years and haven’t seen them increase pricing for existing customers, just new customers.
HostHatch is good too. Their regular pricing aims to compete with Hetzner, but in 13 locations worldwide. hosthatch.com/products. They do sometimes have sales on LowEndTalk with pricing similar to GreenCloud’s “premium” plans.
If you want to stick to big names, OVHcloud and Hetzner both have pretty good VPS pricing. OVH runs theirs on very old hardware like Haswell (2014/2015 era) Xeon E5 CPUs which is the main reason why they have cheaper pricing that Hetzner.
If you’re using AWS for anything, they have a service called Lightsail that’s essentially Amazon’s version of a VPS. Storage and data transfer are included in the monthly price (unlike EC2).
xSikes@feddit.online 13 hours ago
Thanks for sharing
dan@upvote.au 9 hours ago
I forgot to mention - stay far away from SSDNodes. Their prices look good, but they massively oversell their RAM. They use ballooning (
virtio_balloon) to overallocate RAM, and require you to use their customized Linux distro images that have it enabled. Ballooning means that they take unused RAM from your VM and lend it to other VMs to use. If you try to use all your RAM, they shut down your VPS.GreenCloud, HostHatch, and RackNerd all let you install whatever OS you want, by mounting an ISO, connecting to the VPS via VNC, and going through the normal setup process just like you would on a regular computer. They do have pre-built images, but I always prefer to install from my own ISO so I know that the installation doesn’t have any non-standard modifications.