Comment on China is quietly pushing ahead with massive 50,000Mbps broadband rollout to leapfrog rest of the world on internet speeds

PhAzE@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• shasta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Worse than that, from the article:

  The 50G-PON ITU-T standard supports theoretical speeds of up to 50 Gbps downstream and up to 25 Gbps upstream, though current real-world deployments in China - led by China Telecom, its regional branch Shanghai Telecom, and ZTE - typically provide 10 Gbps all-optical access.

  So the 50G number is just theoretical and actual real world speed is only 10G. Due to regulations in the US, advertisements would need to advertise the real speeds. So this is really just the same as 10Gbps anywhere else.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait, there are regulations about advertising true speed? Does ComCast know?

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    • shasta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It may be only loosely enforced with fines but there are FTC rules that all online marketing must follow ftc.gov/…/advertising-marketing-internet-rules-ro…

      It does and up helping a little bit. I’m addition to government fines, they also risk class action lawsuits from their customers. I’m willing to bet this is more of a hurdle than China has for state owned companies.

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  • PhAzE@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yep, which makes alarmist articles like this ridiculous.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m just pretty sure my fiber vendor offers 10Gbps service but I’ve never had reason to check whether they offer it here. There app is not responding so I can’t verify …. They are better at fiber service than maintaining an app.

  Personally I think gig fiber is the current sweet spot:

  • price has come down a lot
  • very low latency
  • high reliability
  • more than enough for most people

  It’s technically overkill for most people but a huge benefit is it works. For everything. Cable tends to be way over-provisioned for plus asymmetrical and higher latency, so you won’t get the bandwidth you pay for, uploads will be slow, and latency may hit you while gaming or streaming. Most of the time it will be good enough but you will hit glitches, buffering.

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• Xanza@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It will be in 10 years when a majority of their country has access to it. Industrialization in China is on a different level.

  In less than 25 years they will take the top spot for global economy, and likely everything else.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yep, and in ten years, we’ll still be arguing absolute it whether dsl counts as “broadband”

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  • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    China will be lucky if they still exist as a single unified nation. Demographics, employment, debt, over built property market, over dependence on manufacturing exports, energy import dependence, food import dependence.

    They have a number of very strong headwinds that could very well cause the failure and break up of the CCP in the next twenty years.

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    • dywmtco@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the us will be lucky if it exists at all in the future

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      • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        We’ll be around. We may not be a democracy but we’ll be around.

        China though, it’s cooked .

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    • Xanza@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have you ever stepped food into China? I have. And I can tell you from personal experience they’re living in the future.

      They have their own fair share of problems. But the investments they’re making into infrastructure are very easily going to catapult them to the head of the class here very shortly…

      I’m really tired of being told how distopian China is from people who’ve never even been there.

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      • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        OK

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• MajorasMaskForever@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s so incredibly annoying when people use smaller order of magnitude descriptors simply so they can then write more zeros. A good chunk of the time too it feels like it’s done to distract from a different point or to exaggerate without technically lying.

  Doesn’t help that technical jargon is only best used when communicating with someone in that field or understands it. Big number + alphabet soup always seems scary 😞

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