Comment on Hexbear federation megathread

• PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Should it?

  The overwhelming majority of mass shooters currently plaguing America are young, male and far-right.

  The story always reads basically the same. Loneliness, frustration and/or disillusionment made them vulnerable, they stumbled upon the far-right claiming they had answers and were lead down the path of extremism by memes, algorithms and social media posts.

  Given that, why should they be platformed at all? Why make the default “if you don’t like it, just block it” rather than “if you want to read it, join their shithole servers”?

  While we might not be “kindergarten” any more, there’s definitely users who are in early highschool and users who are vulnerable to cults.

  That said, I don’t see hexbear being nearly as dangerous because unlike neo-nazis, state violence isn’t the goal.

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  • Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And we are very much not straight white men. User survey said it’s like 1/3 trans people which is more than any non exclusivly trans space I’ve seen.

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  • GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was about to say, Hexbear is very against stochastic violence, which on the left is called “Propaganda of the Deed” after a failed activist “experiment” to do such that. We reject it as a type of adventures, i.e. doing something for kicks that isn’t actually politically useful (and in fact is usually wildly detrimental).

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    • Civility@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      🥰

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  • shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “if you don’t like it, block it” gives each of us a choice. Defederating takes away that choice for all 20k people on this general-purpose instance. We shouldn’t be censoring based on opinion of content alone

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    • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That instance is still out there for you to go and join, if you choose to do so. You could even join another “general purpose” instance that had lost its mind and decided that “advocating genocide to fix the problems of straight white men” was somehow general purpose.

      It’s just as easy to argue that you are forcing hate groups on to people because you would rather individually block them.

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  • Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    state violence is the goal, but for the purpose of ending state violence

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  • lily33@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s can be exceptions - but lemm.ee has a federation policy where the standard for defederatiom is “directly harming lemm.ee users” and I think that should be the standard, as opposed to “users dislike the content, and there’s a lot of it (hexbear is a big instance, there will be a lot of content)”.

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