Until they have the native tools to let me, as a user, block the entire instance I’m with you. Until then defederation is the only way to make “All” even bearable.
Should I stop contributing, leave, and come back in a few months to see if those tools have been made? Because that’s a much preferable alternative than wading through so much shitposting blocking one community or user at a time. And I still see the effect of their votes.
If this is going to drive away people who have been here what do you think it’ll do to newcomers? Do you think people will really want to join somewhere where every top post is full of tankies?
Besides it’s not like they’re posting in good faith. They’re not there for an honest conversation. They are ChapoTrapHouse and they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. They are 100% trolls.
trinitrotoluene@lemm.ee 1 year ago
And that should be golden rule. We’re not kindergarten anymore.
PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Should it?
The overwhelming majority of mass shooters currently plaguing America are young, male and far-right.
The story always reads basically the same. Loneliness, frustration and/or disillusionment made them vulnerable, they stumbled upon the far-right claiming they had answers and were lead down the path of extremism by memes, algorithms and social media posts.
Given that, why should they be platformed at all? Why make the default “if you don’t like it, just block it” rather than “if you want to read it, join their shithole servers”?
While we might not be “kindergarten” any more, there’s definitely users who are in early highschool and users who are vulnerable to cults.
That said, I don’t see hexbear being nearly as dangerous because unlike neo-nazis, state violence isn’t the goal.
Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 1 year ago
And we are very much not straight white men. User survey said it’s like 1/3 trans people which is more than any non exclusivly trans space I’ve seen.
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I was about to say, Hexbear is very against stochastic violence, which on the left is called “Propaganda of the Deed” after a failed activist “experiment” to do such that. We reject it as a type of adventures, i.e. doing something for kicks that isn’t actually politically useful (and in fact is usually wildly detrimental).
Civility@hexbear.net 1 year ago
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shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 1 year ago
“if you don’t like it, block it” gives each of us a choice. Defederating takes away that choice for all 20k people on this general-purpose instance. We shouldn’t be censoring based on opinion of content alone
PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That instance is still out there for you to go and join, if you choose to do so. You could even join another “general purpose” instance that had lost its mind and decided that “advocating genocide to fix the problems of straight white men” was somehow general purpose.
It’s just as easy to argue that you are forcing hate groups on to people because you would rather individually block them.
Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 1 year ago
state violence is the goal, but for the purpose of ending state violence
lily33@lemm.ee 1 year ago
There’s can be exceptions - but lemm.ee has a federation policy where the standard for defederatiom is “directly harming lemm.ee users” and I think that should be the standard, as opposed to “users dislike the content, and there’s a lot of it (hexbear is a big instance, there will be a lot of content)”.