Many. Pretending that you don’t benefit from past criminality is passively doing the same thing which seems to be the default of a lot (most?) white westerners.
Who’s denying any of that though?
01011@monero.town 3 days ago
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 3 days ago
Criminality is a tricky one. What was legal in the past may not be legal nor ethically sound today.
01011@monero.town 3 days ago
Criminal or not the golden rule has been around for a long time. People know that which is reprehensible, it’s those things that they do not wish to be done to them.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 days ago
Criminal or not the golden rule has been around for a long time
So have wars over land
Their actions were and are immoral, dare I say evil
Welcome to the world, there’s a reason we signed up to a 300 billion dollar deal for some submarines and it’s not because we enjoy the look of them
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 2 days ago
Lots of people eat meat today. I can imagine a future where this is seen as immoral and not following the golden rule. But for some reason, humans currently choose not to apply the golden rule to animals.
Similarly in the past, they didn’t apply it to indigenous people.
eureka@aussie.zone 2 days ago
Sometimes it’s not even about denial of what happened, but rather a mindset that the past doesn’t affect the present anymore.
I often-enough hear people saying things along the line of, well, past generations took the land but society is better and less racist now, we collectively apologised, and my family weren’t even here at the time, so we have no obligation to do anything now. Almost like if my dad stole your car ten years ago, died after, and I say well I’ve never stolen anything in my life, it was my dad’s car, this car is mine, stop complaining about the past. It doesn’t make sense to start acting like equal treatment is fair after so much is stolen and so little is given back. But I know people who believe morality is that own individual behaviour, whether they are doing hurtful acts, and disregard their own position in society, how they got there and who suffered to allow that to happen.
Guilt isn’t what people are asking for, guilt actually doesn’t do anything useful, but rather we need people to realise that it doesn’t matter that we personally didn’t commit massacres and seize land, because the consequences of those acts still disadvantage current generations of the victims, and it’s not resolved if we dismiss the consequences as someone else’s sins.