Comment on Germany hits 62.7% renewables in 2024 energy mix, with solar contributing 14%

tomsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Sniatch@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You should change your provider. I do it every year because thata how you can lots of money.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Frustrating that these private energy companies can charge whatever they want (cough market rate is a scam cough) and you need to chase teaser rates year to year if you want to keep your electricity prices down.

    Shame Western Europe lacks state owned municipalities obligated to sell at cost, rather than a colidascope of private firms looking to maximize the margin on every kWh sold.

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• zergtoshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Sounds off, because renewbles are typically cheaper than the alternatives.
  Any chance you got a ‘fossil only’ contract?

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  • tomsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It sounds strange, but that’s how it is, and it’s Ökostrom. Luckily, I can change my provider when they raise the price, so it won’t increase that much for me, but it will still go up, and I’m not the only one in my area because some friends of mine received the same ‘greeting.’ (To those who give dislikes, that won’t change the facts no matter how much you would like it to.)

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    • DrunkenPirate@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Buy a Balkonkraftwerk. It’s cheap right now in Wintertime. If you take one without battery, it has a return of invest of 1-2 years. Just 2-4 solar panels for your balcony or somewhere else and you plug it into your power plug (schuko stecker). It‘s worth, easy to install and allowed without applying the landlord in Germany.

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      • tomsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Are you sure that the investment will be recouped so quickly? I’m not a local here and I’m not familiar with all the rules, but I’ve been told that I can’t put anything on the balcony that will change the appearance of the building until I get permission from the Rathaus.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    renewbles are typically cheaper than the alternatives

    But firms will charge market rate regardless of the source of energy. This is a problem we have in Texas under ERCOT.

    Green power can come in at such high rates that local power is practically free. But because the energy is bundled and auctioned with coal and gas across the grid at large, and because electricity is priced at the maximum auction rate, a shortage in one municipality that’s filled with high priced fossil fuel power raises the retail price of energy into the hundreds or even thousands of dollars a MWh.

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    • zergtoshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I wonder how long it takes to bundle renawables only with batteries and sell that without subsidising fossil based electric energy.
      May the fossil burners go bankrupt rather sooner than later as it’s a more reliable way to get them out of the mix than regulation is.

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        bundle renawables only with batteries and sell that

        Significantly less efficient than a green grid. Roof solar isn’t going to practically compete with industrial scale solar or wind, much less stage subsidized gas.

        May the fossil burners go bankrupt rather sooner than later

        The demand for energy is only increasing. I don’t think anyone is going to go bankrupt selling electricity into this market.

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  • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    why would market electricity prices have any relation to what you pay on your power bill? turns out that companies will charge whatever they know they can, regardless of the cost of acquiring something to sell, should the cost of something be more than they know they can sell it for, they just won’t sell it.

    The idea that market prices influence what you pay for something is basically one of the main lies of supply side economics.

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    • DrunkenPirate@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In Germany, from 1st of January each local power provider has to offer a flexible contract that gives through the market price. But I think it’s too early right know as it has some peaks. Otherwise choose Tibber, Voltego or others. Once you can load your car at night, it’s worth to take a flex tariff

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      • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I mean, that’s assuming you can afford an electric car

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• jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Are you sure its the actual cost of the electricity or the fact that many other costs are often bundled into your bill?

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  • tomsh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Obviously, you don’t live in Germany or the EU, and it’s questionable whether you’ve ever paid a single bill. Because the electricity bill is always separate from other bills and is a special contract.

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    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Prices mainly go up due to things like transmission fees.

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    • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      lol. well I dont live in the EU thats true. seems like you’re the misinformed one. its pretty common for ‘electricity usage’ and ‘delivery’ to be separated. hence my question.

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