Comment on Plebbit is a peer-to-peer Reddit alternative that allows you to self host and own your own community

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Does it need to be better? Can people just share things they find interesting or that they made?

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  From reading the whitepaper, you basically replace instance admins with community admins, and your P2P peers will cache some of the content so you don’t hit the community admin all the time. Benefits:

  • lower hosting costs - you only need to pay for storage for your community, plus some transfer as comments/posts get updated on your "instance"
  • risk is limited to whatever communities someone is hosting, not an entire instance
  • user accounts aren’t centralized, so if a community goes down, you still have your user account
  • some protection against doxxing IP addresses, whereas w/ Lemmy you need to trust your instance admins

  Other differences:

  • moderation is selected by the community admin, there are no instance admins
  • trust mechanisms (captcha and whatnot) is managed at the community level, since there is no instance level

  Potential downsides:

  • no ActivityPub, so it won’t interact w/ the fediverse whatsoever
  • affiliated w/ their own crypto token, and has ties to Ethereum NFTs and whatnot
  • lots of different interfaces (4chan clone, Reddit clone, etc), which could cause distraction for devs
  • uses public-key addressing instead of content addressing, so it could be slow (they propose a mitigation)

  I think it’s a step in the right direction in some areas, but ultimately there’s just a bit too much association w/ cryptocurrencies for it to really be a long-lasting service. We’ll see though, maybe my fears are unwarranted.

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The ideas sound solid. One of Lemmy’s issue is different instances hosting the same community and frequently posting the same content. But too much centralization leads to lemmy.world admins controlling everything. Still there might be abuse such as people claiming every community name.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, name squatting could be an issue, depending on if they rely on ENS or if it’s merely an option. The whitepaper claims communities are merely a public key someone controls, and the name is supplementary, so you could conceivably have duplicate communities. So in theory, squatting wouldn’t be a major issue, but discovery could be (i.e. if ENS is used for discovery, then it’s de-facto authoritative).

      I haven’t looked at the implementation, just the website and whitepaper, so I don’t know the specifics. But in theory it looks to have many of the same problems Lemmy has, with the major difference being reducing hosting costs and some dox protection.

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      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Without some level of beneficial dictatorship all projects are doomed if moderation is required.

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  • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oof. No Activity Pub is a death sentence

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• Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think it’s the same in most aspects, just less developed. However, it looks like the devs lie about the benefits and use a less secure alternative to dns.

  It’s garbage with a funny name

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• myrrh@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Greetings, fellow geezer! And yes, I’ve been there too. My first foray on the web was with Lynx, a text based browser. Left me pretty underwhelmed. But once I actually tried Mosaic, I was instantly converted.

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