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Comment on EU grocery shoppers 'fooled' by 'maze' of food labels: audit

European consumer rights group Foodwatch is pushing for Nutri-Score, currently used in France, Germany and a handful other countries, to be adopted across the bloc.

Nutri-Score is kinda useless. The score isn’t based on overall healthiness, it’s based on how healthy something is within its group. The group isn’t listed anywhere and its unclear what’s in there. You could find a frozen pizza with a higher rating than hummus or soft drinks being rated the same as bottled water. I don’t even notice the score anymore, I go straight to the ingredients and nutrition table.

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absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It seems very similar to the “health star” system we have here…it is next to useless.

Situation:
Say I want to pick up a snack, do I go for a small bag of potato chips or a yogurt? Which is healthier?
Who the fuck knows, you can’t compare two snack foods, that is a logical and reasonable idea, and we can’t have that.

But it can also be deceptive, because the yogurt may have 2 stars and the chips have 4 stars, because they are only rated against their own categories.

There should be a simple system. Where everything is compared to a “standard”; like steamed broccoli, with no sauce.

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BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
You don’t need the nutriscore to compare humus to frozen pizza and I don’t think anyone is using it for that.

On the other hand it’s quite helpful to pick which pizza to buy. If one pizza is a F and another one is a B I’ll tend to go for the B. Especially if I’m shopping with kids I don’t have the time to check the label of each pizza box.

Another beneficial aspect of the nutriscore is that brands are now trying to have a good nutriscore, so now we are seeing a lot more processed food with whole wheat and lower level of sugar.

So as a whole I really think the nutriscore improved the nutritional value of what French people are eating.

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- De_Narm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I do actually agree that Nutri-Score could incentivize companies to add better ingredient to their food. However, the high tolerance for sugar is a clear-cut sign for lobbying influencing the calculation, I’d presume. And of course, until you have to feature a Nutri-Score on your products, you could simply not include it instead of improving your products - which leads back to the original article.
  
  But that aside, my main critique is that a score like this should be usable to compare different products. While an informed customer certainly does benefit from distinguishing an “A” from a “D” frozen pizza at first glance, just as many people may eat more frozen pizzas as a result of rating it “A” instead of going for inherently healthier choices simply due to their lower rating. After all, many people still think juice is inherently healthy despite it being the poster child for hidden sugar bombs.
  
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  - BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The nutriscore is juices is a C at best, so in this case it shows that juices are not as healthy as people thought.
    
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umfk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This is straight up misinformation. 95 percent of all foods are in the same category. Only fats, drinks and cheese have slightly different rules. Please edit your comment to stop the spread of misinformation.

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- De_Narm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Done! Apparently I’ve fallen for a common misconception. My point however still stands, the score is mostly useless, just my reasoning got changed.
  
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  - umfk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Thank you for the edit. The NutriScore’s goal is to compare similar products from different brands, it was never intended to compare different products. The idea is that consumers that are not well informed and don’t read the labels would rather grab the cereals with B instead of the cereals with C next to them. This puts pressure on the producers to change their formulas. There are definitely still loopholes for “healthy-washing” but the rules can be and have already been changed.
    
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biber@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I think your post could be misleading. Iirc there are three categories, drinks, food and milk-stuff. So you can absolutely compare frozen pizza with hummus, and maybe the frozen pizza has more protein and the hummus more fat.

The algorithm is on Wikipedia

Ps: I might also be wrong, but this is how I remember :)

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