I usually just describe fediverse platforms as being community built and run, rather than corporate platforms owned by a company. And then if folks have questions I can answer whatever folks wanna know 🤷♂️
Comment on some fediverse and open web thoughts
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 4 days ago
I think this is good advice, but has some caveats. If you skip the technobabble and politics about free (as in freedom), what's left? If it's just a platform that feels more complicated to sign up, because you have to learn about instances and it's not clear which one you want, plus your friends aren't there, plus it's just 45k users total instead of a lot...?
I mean we then need some positive thing. For all I care, we might call it detox. But what's the detox? We'd need something like a substancially better (healthier/more welcoming) culture, less posts that make up for that with quality... And I'm not 100% sure we're there... Feel free to disagree or comment on my perspective...
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 4 days ago
technomad@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Fediverse: a network of community built and run platforms.
I like that.
ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The complication arises by making the mistake of pointing people to the backend, and the backends confusing matters by presenting themselves as platforms like existing corporate platforms. As noted, you reduce that by inviting them to join or browse your respective instance (or if you’re self-hosting, to whichever open instance you think is amenable).
You’re right though that some positive thing would help, and that’s really down to whatever positive thing you found and want to share with others about these spaces. For me it’s as simple as them being open and ad-free. I’m reminded of it every time I find myself trying to browse enclosures without having an account and they simply won’t allow me to browse much before prompting me to sign up or subscribe to view more.
In a way that’s kind of the irony of the fediverse, a major feature is that you don’t have to sign up at all in many(most?) cases.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 4 days ago
I'm not sure if I'm 100% with you.
Yeah, like Pintrest and Facebook an a lot of services these days. I avoid those like the plague. That's enshittification and for the users: living within small confined spaces. Though, that'd get me started babbling about freedom and starting the technobabble on how the internet is supposed to liberate information, and not confine it...
I generally recommend uBlock to my friends. With that, 90% of the internet is ad-free. And I don't mind watching the advertisements itself... It's (again) the other things that come with it. The tracking, selling of data, being an object to the ad selling algorithms...
I can't help but immediately proceed to the technobabble... Maybe with a few exceptions. I could explain why it's stupid to watch 2 ads before each Youtube video.