Comment on In the US, is this actually the moment past the point of no return?
kitnaht@lemmy.world 17 hours agoNobody thought that at all. Most presidents sitting during outbreaks of war retain their positions. You’d have to have been in a complete echo chamber to believe this stance.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Yeah no, I’m gonna disagree. Being outside of the US at the time, most people did think that. And yes, obviously I’m talking about Jr since Sr didn’t get re-elected. 9/11 was a full three years before the election of his second term.
kitnaht@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
It was viewed as illegitimate inside the US too. And yeah, I remember, even as a 17yr old at the time, seeing the event happen live and lamenting to my mother that we were going to have another Bush term over it. Historically for America that’s always been the case.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Something like 65% of the population approved of it at first. Meanwhile there were protests in the millions of people around the world against it.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
It was, but there were people bitching about it. It may be an unconventional way to show it but if you look at Eminem’s album released in 2004 the second track was Mosh.
“Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home”
“Let the president answer a higher anarchy Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war Let him impress daddy that way No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain’t loyal If we don’t serve our own country, we’re patronizing a hero Look in his eyes its all lies The stars and stripes, they’ve been swiped, washed out and wiped And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die If I get sniped tonight you know why, Cause I told you to fight.”
kitnaht@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
You should read your own link, because it also mentions that by the end of his term, most disapproved.
Asafum@feddit.nl 16 hours ago
It’s so fucking disgusting to be honest… I’m just a worthless dumb shit uneducated factory worker and at 17 I could see right through that garbage… I was going to join the military after highschool to get training since I’m poor and had no real direction to gamble on college, and then take it from there whether to stay in or not.
Once talk started of invading Iraq I immediately said fuccccck that. I still blame Bush partially for my current situation. :/