Comment on AI-generated poetry is indistinguishable from human-written poetry and is rated more favorably - Scientific Reports

ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• leisesprecher@feddit.org ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If it’s literally indistinguishable from human poetry, about as many people want to read it as there are people wanting to read human poetry. And that’s about 12.

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  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t give a fuck if it surpasses human poetry to a focus group or if poetry is popular enough for you to care. I’m making a larger point that it’s a misuse of technology. Some things are pointless without a human personally taking time to craft it. We have loads of inefficiently produced things that exist because they’re “handmade” or came from the heart.

    It’s like when Google screwed up during the Olympics with that commercial where Gemini made a little girl’s fan letter for an athlete. The whole point of a fan letter from a little girl is that it’s personal and took time. It’s not supposed to be perfect and efficiently produced. It could be 80% misspelled and written in crayon and be more meaningful than anything a machine produces.

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    • leisesprecher@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or maybe accept that this idea was crap all along?

      You desperately try to create some form of human superiority, just to feel important. That superiority doesn’t exist. There’s no value in anything just because it’s made with “love”, that’s an illusion.

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      • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Value is a human construct. In absolute terms, nothing has value, in practical terms, a bottlecap can be the most valuable item in the world. What attributes value to things is the human condition, remove the human and you have a tool, perhaps.

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      • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s no value in anything just because it’s made with “love”, that’s an illusion.

        Wow, that’s a horrendously bleak and depressing take. Of course you can’t put a price tag on that (why would you want to?), but you’re not seriously suggesting that human love has no emotional value, right?

        A love letter from your partner, or the diary of a passed relative, or your child’s drawings? All of these things might be objectively worse than something a machine could produce. But would you feel the same when you received a love letter that’s just been printed off of ChatGPT? Humans are more than profit-producing machines, despite what capitalists want you to believe. And there is value in human interaction.

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      • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He/she is onto something though. An example of it is games made by people who care and love the field vs. games made by companies just wanting money and using the same boring formula.

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  • tpihkal@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Literally dozens of them.

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  • Jolteon@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Poetry isn’t for the one reading it, it’s for the one writing it.

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• themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ll raise you one better: who the fuck wants poetry?

  Like I know I sound like a fucking mongrel who can’t appreciate art or whatever, but how many poems do you think the average person reads in their entire life? Maybe 2, for school? Poetry is just not that popular of an art form, so of course people aren’t going to be good at distinguishing good from bad. Compare it to visual arts, where people have seen multiple examples, at least more than 3 times a year for their entire life, of good visual art.

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  • treefrog@lemm.ee ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is a very consumer take on art.

    I write poetry because making art feeds my soul. I share my poetry because it feeds others, especially other poets.

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    • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s cool, I’m glad you are making something you enjoy. The point stands that the average Joe doesn’t actually seek out poetry, be it man or machine-made, and will therefore be an exceptionally poor judge of a poems quality.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re right, actually. How many people make a point of reading poetry? I’ve read a huge amount, especially when I was in school, as well as news articles, and of course an unfathomable number of comments.

    Never have I decided to read poetry, not once.

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    • treefrog@lemm.ee ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Poets. You know, people who appreciate making and sharing that kind of art.

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  • kriz@slrpnk.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I like Ethan Hawke’s take: youtube.com/shorts/dPBMTpK5yvk

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• fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Does any poetry have any value without knowing the person that made it?

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  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Knowing a human made it is the point. To be crude, if a sex doll is your girlfriend, you’re single.

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