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TootGuitar@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

You don’t just get to call any words that you don’t like, or even words directly attacking you, an ad hominem. A statement is only an ad hominem if 1) it’s attempting to refute an argument 2) by attacking the character/motive of the person making the argument INSTEAD OF the actual content of the argument. “Your argument is wrong because you’re an idiot” is an ad hominem. What the other commenter said to you is not. Note that people claiming “ad hominem” on statements that are not are sometimes said to be committing an “ad hominem fallacy fallacy.”

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Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

A statement is only an ad hominem if 1) it’s attempting to refute an argument 2) by attacking the character/motive of the person

Which is EXACTLY what he did.

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- TootGuitar@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ok buddy, you only quoted part of what I said. You’re wrong, accept it and move on.
  
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  - Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Ok buddy, you only quoted part of what I said.
    
    I took the part that was essential. Your claim that only things like this is an ad hominem is essentially the same argument.
    
    Your argument is wrong because you’re an idiot
    
    That’s the same as your argument is wrong, because you are angry and hurt, and therefore not rational. Both are equally as much attacks on the person and not the argument.
    
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