Switching to vaping is less bad, and for me, it lead to me quitting all together. So to me, this is still a small win, and I like to celebrate small wins these days.
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Foni@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Yesterday I read on mastodon that leaving Twitter to go to Bluesky is like quitting smoking to start vaping. Changing a centralized place that lives off your data for another one. Right now Bluesky does not have hate speech like Twitter just because it does not suit the current accounts of its shareholders
BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I would say quitting twitter to join bluesky is more like quitting menthols to smoke regular cigarettes, and switching to a decentralized platform would be more analogous to a switch to vaping. Quitting social media entirely would equate better to ‘quitting smoking’ in my mind, as i dont think any platform is mentally healthful (yes i am fully aware of the hypocrisy of posting this comment as a lemmy user).
pivot_root@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I would say quitting twitter to join bluesky is more like quitting
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ripcord@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Since Twitter is currently really really toxic, dangerous, and run by a maniac; and Bluesky currently is not (it’s actually been amazingly non-toxic)…I strongly disagree.
Even shittier anaology, but it’s more like moving from a house that has an active gas leak to a house that has gas pipes in the house. Has potential for leaks, but there aren’t any. And it currently has working gas leak detectors.
Foni@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Ok, if it’s good for you I’m glad, maybe over time it will happen to you like vaping and you can completely switch to decentralized networks
BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You misunderstand. I’m not using any centralized social media. Lemmy is my one and only. I’m saying It’s worth celebrating the small wins and encouraging companies to continue moving to models like this. Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.
garretble@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I don’t know if hate speech will be able to flourish on Bluesky like on twitter simply because of the moderation tools.
There’s already a giant blocklist of maga idiots who have tried to move over, and if you follow that list you’ll never see their posts. And the unwritten rule of the place is to block anyone who is trying to start stuff or that you simply don’t like. On twitter that felt taboo for some reason, but on Bluesky that’s normal - as it should be, really.
Dasnap@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Where can I jump on this list?
garretble@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Here is one. I’m sure there are several.
Foni@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I left Twitter years ago, but I think you could also block whoever you want, whether people do it more or less is independent of the site, the moderation tools are the same. 3
What’s more, I am 100% sure that if in a few years Bluesky considers it economically beneficial for its shareholders that these tools “have occasional failures” this will happen without a doubt. This is something that if happens in Mastodon, changing the node you are done
JaymesRS@literature.cafe 3 days ago
Bluesky also lets you unpin your quotes from others posts so no quote dunking and they have a nuclear block. If you’re blocked, you can’t see their posts anywhere in quotes or otherwise (excepting screenshots) and that interaction is broken completely even to third parties that may have neither blocked.
garretble@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Twitter didn’t have block lists. You could block people individually, but not as a group.
Foni@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Are these details really that important? Is it really that difficult to manually block 50-100 users? I don’t know, everything you are telling me are, at best, marginal improvements that do not justify selling all your personal data to a private company seeking profit from those data/contributions.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Doesn’t that just create an echo chamber of idiots? Assuming they stay instead of leaving after their fe-fes get hurt, of course.
croaker@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
There will always be echo chambers of idiots. Twitter is more or less that already.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world 3 days ago
atproto.com/guides/self-hosting it’s not so bad; they’re a lot more open than people giving them credit for. it’s just not as federated - yet
Foni@lemm.ee 3 days ago
It has a single owner who makes the decisions and makes profitable the contributions of the users. It is a social media model that has been over for me for some time now, if they are open the better for them, I am not going to join anyway.
Iapar@feddit.org 2 days ago
How is mastodon not just a bunch of centralized platforms?
Sure the servers communicate with each other but the content is still just on one of them. Goes the server, so goes the content.
Or am I mistaking?
If it is like I say I feel it is more trading Hitler in for, potentially, a bunch of smaller Hitlers.
Lanthanae@lemmy.world 2 days ago
a bunch of centralized platforms?
This is what decentralized means. If your home instance goes to shit, you can just move your account to another one.
Iapar@feddit.org 1 day ago
But you can’t really? If I remember correctly you still lose all the posts, followers and pretty much everything that you would expect to keep.
Technically you keep your account but let’s be honest, you don’t in the sense people want.
Maybe my knowledge is dated but that is what I recall about moving accounts.
Foni@lemm.ee 2 days ago
Well, I am not a systems engineer to answer your question, in any case smaller Hitlers equals Hitlers with less power. Dividing power is not the definitive solution to authoritarianism, but it usually helps a lot, especially if the agents are also competitive. “If you are too Hitler, I’ll go to this other server that is a little less so” is a valid incentive to avoid the Hitlerization of the admins.
I don’t think I’ve ever used the name Hitler so much.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Twitter started dying when they closed the API
Bluesky’s is perfectly operational
Foni@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Ok, if for you the API is the most important thing, go ahead, I’m worried about more companies doing “things” with my data, everyone has their priorities.
P.S. Unlike in BlueSky in Mastodon you can be 100% sure that the API will never be closed, in Bluesky it will depend on variable business interests
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mastodon has protocol level issues that prevent it from being fully mainstream though.
As long as people move out of Twitter, I count it as a win. Especially when we get official government stuff out of there - which won’t happen for the US, but the rest of us have a chance
Foni@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I will count it as a victory when my government’s communication channels with me are not private property. A government-owned Mastodon server for official accounts would be logical (the EU already has it even though it barely uses it)
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
Things never change, companies never break promises, shareholders never hold power over decision, people can not be bought.
Those would all have to be true in order for anyone to have a reason to put trust into Bluesky.
index@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Isn’t it decentralized?
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Not really. You can host your own data but you still rely on Bluesky’s services to access it. And there is no realistic way to migrate your content or audience to another platform outside their control
Dasnap@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I think we just need to adopt the 2000s mindset again of dropping a platform when it gets shit. No one gave a fuck about the loss of Digg and Myspace.
Damage@feddit.it 3 days ago
Normies don’t do change
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Apparently they just become fascist
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
When did this become the default?
Greg@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
I had a really good friend on MySpace that I lost touch with. I think he was a little paranoid, we didn’t speak much and he was always looking over his shoulder. His name was Tom.
ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 3 days ago
But now I have nostalgia for MySpace lol