Comment on We should defederate lemmy.ml
Nath@aussie.zone 1 week ago
Feeling a bit conscious of the fact that I’m at work right now, and too busy to give this the diplomatic response it deserves. The short answer to this question is that we don’t generally defederate anyone for anything they say/do inside their own instance. We do however happily support you in blocking them for yourself. Click on your username in the top-right, go to Settings and then Blocks. Under the Instance section, search for lemmy.ml and make sure you click on their name in the drop-down like this:
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Do this and you will no longer see lemmy.ml content.
Disclosure: I subscribe to that community - and while I’m aware that the locals of lemmy.ml have quirky political leanings, that particular community is frequented by a lot of non-local members. Also, that post was always going to attract hardliners from all sides, wherever that question was asked.
Also, that post was always going to attract hardliners from all sides
The problem isn’t the existence of hardliners. It’s the clear ignoring of their own rules removing perfectly good comments that disagree with their line, while the admins themselves and people who agree with their view can get away with anything.
Just to give you another post that you might be interested in: feddit.nl/post/16246531
Do this and you will no longer see lemmy.ml content.
FYI, this only hides the lemmy.ml communities, not all content coming from lemmy.ml. More details on lemmy.ca/post/32209344
(Sorry, wanted to give an aussie.zone link, but nobody from your instance subscribed to that community: !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca )
Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 week ago
I think the point touched on by @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone below is one of the best ones. Being federated with ML, like Hexbear and Lemmygrad (only the last of which we have defederated already) innately exposes our users to some of the worst the site has to offer in terms of pro-authoritarian bias.
Ask anyone who got over the technical hurdles and questions like “what’s that? Why should I use it? How do I make an account?” and started using Lemmy, but then left and stopped engaging why they did so. One of the top two reasons (the other being the amount of content) is probably about the amount of tanky bias and the poor behaviour of tankies. For example, this is one of the most recent posts on the subreddit for Lemmy wherein the same admin I was complaining about above doxed a user who disagreed with them.
If we want Lemmy to grow and be a good place for our users and prospective users, we need to, as @trk said, not tolerate the intolerance which is the default position on ML.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 week ago
Tolerance is not a right, it’s an agreement .
When someone breaks the agreement they are no longer party to the agreement and are ousted.