Comment on Elon's Death Machine (aka Tesla) Mows Down Deer at Full Speed , Keeps Going on "Autopilot"

• Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A human could probably see it as an obstacle and try to swerve to the side, albeit not knowing what it is.

  Attempting to swerve aside at that speed results in over correction, followed by loss of control and then a rollover crash. Happens all the time to people who aren’t aware / don’t remember that you’re supposed to hit deer head on.

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  • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Happens all the time to people who aren’t aware / don’t remember that you’re supposed to hit deer head on.

    This isn’t true. You shouldn’t jerk the wheel and swerve to avoid an animal, but if you can do it safely you absolutely should. Not only to avoid damage, but to prevent it coming through the windshield. I’ve seen this same idea in a few different comments here, but growing up in deer infested upstate NY, “hit it head on” is something I’ve never heard. Not from parents/relatives, not from driver’s ed, not from the internet until today. Keep it out of the ditch but absolutely avoid hitting the deer if you can. You don’t need to jerk the wheel to move 4-6 feet to the right, into the shoulder.

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    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d imagine there’s a few reasons for the variation in driver training between upstate NY and Wyoming.

      1. Road Speed. Here in Wyoming our highways are 65-70MPH (posted) and most of the Interstate is posted at 80MPH. You can generally figure that everyone is doing at least 5MPH over that. The higher the speed the less time you have to react and the harder it is to lightly twitch a vehicle to one side or the other.
      2. Road layout. You commented about swerving into the shoulder but most of our highways have a shoulder width of 48" or less and on the other side of the shoulder there’s commonly a ditch. It has to do with the wind and snow we get here but if you twitch onto the shoulder here you are likely to encounter a very unwelcome surprise.
      3. Animal differences. In upstate New York you’re dodging Whitetail deer, here you’re trying to dodge Antelope (which are nearly as fast your car) Mule deer, Elk, Black bear, Brown Bear, and the occasional Moose. The bigger the animal the harder it is to dodge.

      The way you describe upstate NY is how it was taught to me when I grew up in Nebraska but it’s not what they advise in Wyoming.

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      • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You commented about swerving into the shoulder

        I specifically said to not swerve or jerk the wheel. I’m talking about a controlled movement a few feet to the side, safety permitting, to strike a glancing blow on the animal. Especially with a larger animal that is more likely to come through the windshield, this is important. You don’t need to hit any animal head on if you can safely avoid it. I’m talking about a slow, controlled movement while emergency braking, not a “twitch onto the shoulder” There’s nothing wrong with this, and I’d argue a glancing blow is better than hitting animals head on. A multitude of factors will play into “can you move over safely” such as available space, weather, hazards, etc. I don’t feel the instruction that you’re “supposed to hit them head on” is wise advice regardless. Maybe this was true before ABS, but steering while braking hard is something modern vehicles have little issue with.

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The idea of don’t swerve for deer is very common and is taught in driving schools. If you’ve never heard it until today, well, today you learn. You don’t know dismiss it because you haven’t heard it.

      Swerving is dangerous and even if you think you can do it safely, having a deer at night appear while travelling at high speeds is risky.

      You’re supposed to slow down but stay in lane.

      The reason you’re supposed to swerve for things like Moose is because moose are big as fuck and tall, and if you hit one head on, you will cut the legs out from under it, and it’s massive body will roll through the windshield and crush you, killing you or causing massive bodily harm.

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      • Reyali@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wait, are you saying that Virginia not mentioning what to do if a moose is in the road is “bad”?

        Considering that the northern-most part of Virginia is still about 350 mi south of the closest range of moose, it would be pointless if not absurd for them to include it.

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      • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Did you read the second sentence I said? Of course don’t swerve.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hit the deer head on, but swerve for moose and elk.

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