Comment on Norwegian government to set 15-year age limit for using social media
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoYou are correct, but i’d like to expand a bit on how it could be solved.
It requires that all major social networks use BankID for all traffic from Norway.
Bypassing it would require a VPN, which is a simple hurdle.
But the major win here is that parents will enforce this. Parents can point to this law and say that they have to be old enough. As long as enough parents enforce this law and the VPN requirement is there, then it will probably be effective enough
I’m not Norwegian or in Norway and I’m definitely doing this - my kids know of the problems of social networking (including the latest TikTok court docs and what the execs say.)
Some friends say that’s over the top; I just say it is responsible, involved parenting. I value their mental health.
And a 14 year old kid using a VPN is probably not the target audience for a lot of the worst abuse.
Not saying it won’t happen, but a drastic reduction is better than none.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
So you need a BankID to open an account on the covered platforms? That seems like a privacy nightmare.
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Everyone in Norway has one, well like 99,99% or something. It is a requirement for banking.
It is used for all banking services in Norway. When you get your own bank account at 13 or something you also get BankID.
sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
it’s a privacy nightmare as it relies on google and apple servers to authenticate verification. neither of which are private. it also makes it impossible for european alternative operative systems to enter the market - giving a foreign state, the US, full control over what we can and can’t do.
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can you elaborate a bit on the google and apple servers for authentication? My impression was that this system uses its own platform.
boonhet@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
We have SmartID and MobiilID in Estonia too, but you don’t need it to log onto social media. You only need it
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Right. But Facebook shouldn’t have that number.
Leavingoldhabits@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As far as I understand, BankID actually abstracts away those numbers. FB have to use an API, and more or less receive a true or false on their query.
They recently opened up for using BankID to prove your age at bars and such, and I think they only get to know if person is old enough or not. Not even a number, just old enough.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 weeks ago
In Scandinavia every citizen has a registration number and the government has deployed state-enforced online digital identity system.
It’s not a privacy nightmare if you can trust the government. And in Scandinavia you generally can.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I mean… the government already has all your information. If you distrust them with your information, you have an odd problem to overcome. The corpos, however, shouldn’t have all this data on you.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 weeks ago
Depends on where you live. Many places you can’t trust the government and they almost nothing about you.