Just jail the CEO. Maybe their salary will finally be justified, if they’re willing to take the risk.
Comment on LinkedIn fined $335 million in EU for tracking ads privacy breaches
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 weeks agoI always feel like the solution is to make this sort of thing unprofitable. Rather than just having a cost-of-doing-business fine, the company should have to forfeit all revenue generated by the illegal activity. The fine should then be assessed in addition to the revenue forfeiture, making it a real penalty rather than a wrist-slap.
kambusha@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
Thing is, if the profit is high enough and the golden parachute is good enough then a business could probably find someone to take the fall as the CEO for them. Losing the CEO won’t end the business or their exploitative behavior.
P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Board of Directors. Entire C-suite on trial. People with 10% or more ownership of shares. That would change things.
Oh, emails were deleted and couldn’t be recovered? CTO is at fault. Skip start, go straight to jail.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
Well… look, I’m all for punishing white collar crime, we should do more of that, but I’d much rather incentivize preventing this kind of thing in first place than punishing people after the fact.
Taking away the revenue (remember revenue means all the income, not just the profit) from criminal behavior does that, because it means the business risks financial collapse.
For instance, in this case if LinkedIn’s EU ad sales department violated EU law, then all revenue from the EU ad sales department should be forfeit, for the entire time period during which the violation occurred.
This would be a lot more effective than threatening rich people with jail time, because rich people can always make a deal to serve their time in a nice facility or house arrest or something. Instead, we threaten to wipe out the business financially.
kambusha@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Tbh, you’re probably right. It’s the same reason that solar finally is seeing an uptick, and how cryptography works. Solar makes financial sense now, and cryptography is all just about how much money you would need to spend to crack a password.
slowcakes@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Sure but when they actively decide to break the law and the rights of millions people, they are criminals or part of a criminal Enterprise and you should be on trail. The people in position of power, choose to break the law because of profit motivation, of course they shouldn’t keep the money because it was made illegally.
Why would they care about the consequences of fines, when they themselves don’t have to pay it, they can just cash out and not lose a cent, its the company that gets fined.
Fuck em, they should face several years of prison and lose the right to run a business or having a position of power, for gross violations of human rights and shouldn’t be trusted to hold power.
What stops Nvidia, intel or whatever to build the same kind of privacy violating technology directly in the hardware. I don’t even know how our phones are even allowed to collect all the data that they do, what are you going to do in the future when every piece of electronics you buy, is collecting data. You wouldn’t even need internet, they’ll just send it to the nearest 5g tower.
In 5 - 10 years, we’ll live in the era of mass surveillance (for your safety of course). AI combined with all the data available, will make the world a living hell for regular people. 1984 will no longer be science fiction, because we elect self serving clowns, total morons that aren’t capable of doing anything because they are starstruck by rich people and tech bros.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
Because if you lose a company a substantial amount of money without generating profit for the shareholders then you won’t get an executive position at any other companies.
It definitely feels like that. In a lot of ways we’re already there. Stingrays have been around for more than a decade - but of course they’re technically legal.
Technology will always move faster than government, and unfortunately that means technology companies will always find ways to gather data on people with things that we don’t have laws for. The only way I can think to slow that down would be to kill the demand for tracking data, but it seems like every government and major business is into collecting, buying and selling data on human behavior right now so I don’t even have a theory as to how to actually reduce the demand for it. It’s way out of hand.
The best option for individuals right now is to live in a place that has some decent legal restrictions, like the EU or California, and of course vote for politicians who favor privacy regulations.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
As I’m reading this, stingrays are pretty ineffective if users are using E2EE messaging (or just a VPN), and can then pretty much only be used for location estimation.