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Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Linus is a god for many of us… with human traits though… His Finland, although historically robbed by Russia, achieved its highest splendor during the decades of neutrality, not by fiercely antagonizing one or the other power… same as Switzerland, Ireland, Austria and Singapore.

Ukraine was neutral before 2014, that didn’t help avoid an invasion. Not to mention they occupied Moldova and Georgia before that too.

They have not been able to attack the Baltic nations or Poland because they joined NATO.

Neutrality word salad is only for the ignorant or those who support russian imperialism.

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polar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ukraine was awkwardly neutral (it was more a pro-anti rotation govs) before 2014 true… why US senators and Nuland ended there fanning a coup and ended handpicking the leaders? The invasion happened in 2022, 4 month after Russia send a letter to NATO to keep off Ukraine. Russia, as imperialistic aims it may have, have no intentions, not capabilities of invading Poland, Lithuania or Finland. Finland was no NATO and not even the USSR touch it. Mexico’s since Obrador is highly critical of the US, but wisely, choose to calm things down rather than going the Cuban and Venezuela route… see what works best. Is it fair? No, but one has to be pragmatic.

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- Cpo@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Russia, as imperialistic aims it may have, have no intentions, not capabilities of invading Poland, Lithuania or Finland.
  
  Hey, I’ve heard that before in 2014. You know the three day invasion?
  
  And because I really think you are a troll: the best part is, NATO has yet to set foot on the ground, while Russia is running to rogue countries like NK.
  
  Besides, Ukraine being “awkwardly neutral” did not stop Putler from invading, did it?
  
  You use a lot of words, but a foundation of your “facts” are blatantly missing.
  
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  - polar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Putin invaded after the US fomented coup. before that, Ukraine just kept alternating pro-western pro-russian governments, the coup was done to prevent that alternation (even though the pro-western was going to win in 11 months, but that was not enough for US). Russia, could just not see being kick out of Crimea by the US with a coup. Imagine Cuba gets the capability of kicking US out of Guantanamo… US would just declare the Guantanamo “lease” as US land in a second. Lets not mention the vital or historical importance Crimea has for Russia that Guantanamo does not for the US.
    
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    Cpo@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Dude. You are ranting.
    
    Find help.
    
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- Ninjasftw@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Finland was no NATO and not even the USSR touch it Yes because they had one of the largest regional armies. And why do you think that is? Maybe because they already had Russia invade twice within living memory
  
  Worth noting that they stayed out of Nato until it was obvious their lunatic neighbour with “imperialistic aims” wouldn’t stop invading others…
  
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- nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Finland was no NATO and not even the USSR touch it.
  
  If you omit the middle of the 20th century, sure. The Finns declared independence from the Russian Empire in 1917, under the approval of the Bolsheviks’ Declaration of the Rights of the Peoples of Russia. In 1934, Finland and the USSR reaffirmed a non-aggression pact for 10 years. In 1939, after penning a deal with Hitler to carve up Europe between the Nazis and the USSR, Stalin demanded that Finland, who had maintained a stance of neutrality, cede territory for military use and, when they refused, ordered shelling and invasion.
  
  Neutrality or even open trade did not prevent the USSR from invading then, not did handing over nukes save Ukraine from invasion in 2014.
  
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