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Are you under the impression I’m some kind of strategical genious of political negotiation? I have no idea.

My point is that holding everybody responsible for what the specific form of government of the specific country they happened to be born into is a confortable truth to push back on the much more controversial take of all of us being the very same thing.

And to get slightly more practical, it’s asinine to suggest that anybody that disagrees with a government has the means, or the will, or the duty to straight up move to another country (obviously to a flawless country, good luck with that).

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YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Are you under the impression I’m some kind of strategical genius of political negotiation?

The way you denigrate different opinions, it seems you may be the one to think that, actually.

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- dwindling7373@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  That’s just the misanthropy leaking…
  
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GoodEye8@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ll ask differently. Let’s just assume there is a way to make sure there is no overreach of sanctions, but it’s going to cost millions of tax dollars or euros. Would you rather have that money spent on things that are close to you (education, healthcare, infrastructure etc) or would you want that money to spent identifying which Russians should or shouldn’t be sanctioned?

And to get slightly more practical, it’s asinine to suggest that anybody that disagrees with a government has the means, or the will, or the duty to straight up move to another country (obviously to a flawless country, good luck with that).

I agree, somethings shit just sucks. However, the other person said

even of people who’ve long moved out and immigrated years ago and don’t support the invasion and war waged on Ukraine

Those people have already had the means, will or duty to move to another country. What’s their excuse for keeping the Russian citizenship?

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- dwindling7373@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Those people have already had the means, will or duty to move to another country. What’s their excuse for keeping the Russian citizenship?
  
  There’s plenty of reason, the most likely is that they love their country, their homeland, their city, the network of friends, the memories and they hope, one day, to be able to get back.
  
  Let’s just assume there is a way to make sure there is no overreach of sanctions, but it’s going to cost millions of tax dollars or euros. Would you rather have that money spent on things that are close to you (education, healthcare, infrastructure etc) or would you want that money to be spent identifying which Russians should or shouldn’t be sanctioned?
  
  Would you still love me if I was a giant moth?
  
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  - GoodEye8@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    There’s plenty of reason, the most likely is that they love their country, their homeland, their city, the network of friends, the memories and they hope, one day, to be able to get back.
    
    So it’s literally their decision to keep their citizenship and be sanctioned, but you’re still outraged about it?
    
    Would you still love me if I was a giant moth?
    
    I would definitely hate you less because I really hate trolls.
    
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    dwindling7373@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m not a troll but it’s unsurprising you are quick to hate considering your opinions toward mankind.
    
    A country is not their government, their history is not their current posturing, the action of their military is the expression of their local communities. The idea that since you are attached to a certain place is equivalent to sharing the broad general responsibility of it’s actions through history is what ultimately fuels shit like, you guessed it, the Russian invasion of Ukrain itself.
    
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