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sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

It absolutely could, and should. I’m not saying that the crimes should be forgiven, but it is not a purely black and white area. It is very grey. To ignore the fact that they were ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances, just because it’s uncomfortable to think about, would be a disservice towards efforts to prevent things like this in the future. People are complex.

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4lan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They have a choice. They could either kill innocent people or sit in a jail cell. Picking the first one makes you a sociopath.

I guarantee he would face a lot less trauma in jail, especially since he is a trained soldier.

Stop making excuses, “complexity” doesn’t justify genocide.

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- sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s not a justification for genocide, it’s a call for empathy. Give what I wrote another read with that in mind.
  
  As for your questions… I think our soldiers are victims. I was there, so I think I’ve got at least a somewhat informed perspective on things. It’s not something you can prepare for. In my experience, forgiveness and understanding come with time, but it will never be the majority.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    it’s a call for empathy
    
    Empathy isn’t just about feeling sad for other people. It is about relating to them emotionally. In this case, we’re dealing with people who are professional physical, psychological, and sexual abusers. Empathizing them should mean recognizing these sociopathic traits and recoiling in horror.
    
    If you’re feeling pity for a chronic abuser, you’re not feeling empathy. You’re being exploited. The first response to dealing with a chronic abuser is to separate yourself from them. If you’re opening yourself up to their manipulation, you’re feeding into the abuse cycle.
    
    In my experience, forgiveness and understanding come with time
    
    How can you even begin to talk about forgiveness as this act of abuse is still playing out before our eyes?
    
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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  I guarantee he would face a lot less trauma in jail
  
  glances at the state of Israeli prisons, complete with guards who have the designated job of raping prisoners
  
  Maybe not a lot less.
  
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  - 4lan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Would you rather be raped or slaughter children?
    
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    UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’d rather neither. But I accomplish that by not being an Israeli Settler forced to choose.
    
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- freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And if the glass house you call your home exists in the united states, then your taxes financed filling the soldiers heads with the propaganda, financed sending them out on the field, made sure they had rations and ammo, and paid to put their finger on that trigger. What’s your culpability, compadre? You know when you point your finger at someone, you’ve got three more aimed straight at yourself, right?
  
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  - sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Oh, no. You misunderstood. I absolutely acknowledge that. It’s a pretty spicy issue in my area. It would pretty rad to choose where my taxes go, though. I’d much rather fund schools and national parks. I think that’s dragging things a bit off-topic, though.
    
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