Mastodon is scaling fine though? I’ve been using it for years, and it’s great, and still growing. User base is a bit tech focused, could be more general, but I think it’ll get there eventually.
Comment on X's idiocy is doing wonders for Bluesky.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m on Bluesky. I have seen a drama increase in followers in the last few days since Twitter let blocked people see content that were blocked from.
It’s a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.
I had to decide if I was going to Mastodon or Bluesky. I picked Bluesky because after reading Mastodon’s integration problems with itself I wanted nothing to do with it. It couldn’t scale unless each instance played nice and in the years since it went live they had refused to do that and showed no signs of even moving in that direction.
naught101@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Are instances federated or rag-tag islands?
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
islands can be good (for unpopular/generally hated content)
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m sorry that whoever down voted you didn’t see what you were doing.
naught101@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Any instance that interacts with any other instance is federated. Which is the vast majority of instances with more than a handful of users.
AwakenedAce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Well I’d say most of them are federated together, or at least those with a good amount of users. In practice you don’t really get islands other than I guess troll instances that everyone has blocked.
And AFAIK as long as an instance isn’t blocked by yours (and vice versa to be useful), you can follow a person on that unfederated instance and it should just work and get federated.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What are the Mastadon Integration problems?
pixelscript@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure they’re referring to the concept of defederation and how that can splinter the platform.
Bluesky is ““federated”” in largely the same ways as Mastodon, but there’s basically one and only one instance anyone cares about. The federation capability is just lip service to the minority of dorks like us who care.
To the vast majority of Twitter refugees, federation as a concept is not a feature, it’s an irritation.
Lennny@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
an irritation
I get it, hearing about federation is the worst part of this site . Y’all sound like coinbros “here’s the most inefficient storage method, lets call it something easy to remember and sell it as a feature!”
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
You could just stay on the biggest mastadon instance and not care about anything. Wouldn’t be too different than just using bluesky.
Preferring handcuffs because it’s more seemless sounds like a terrible mindset
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Preferring handcuffs because it’s more seemless
They’re not handcuffs. You can always log off.
But the big appeal of BlueSky is the initialization of the interface. It defaults you to “Following” rather than “Discover” and isn’t jamming a ton of ads in your feed. There’s basically no algorithm. Its a very basic service, rather than an engineered mess. More akin to Facebook or Twitter from back in the '00s, before monetization ruined them.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Partly. Except the time different Mastodon instances were not federated much or at all. If you wanted to go follow someone on Mastodon you had to know the exact server they were on. In an environment like Reddit and Lemmy where you’re there for the communities instead of the people that isn’t an issue. But if you want to go follow some specific podcaster you need to know the instance because there’s no guarantee that whatever instance you happen upon is going to be joined up with the one there on.
Everyone was busy running their own servers and not trying to tie everything together. It was a thing that could be done but a thing not enough were doing.
pixelscript@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
That sounds worse than I thought it was. I just assumed Mastodon was like Lemmy, where every instance federates with every other instance basically by default and there’s only some high-profile defed exceptions.
A Fediverse where federations are opt-in instead of opt-out sounds like actual hell. Yeah, more control to instances, hooray, but far less seamless usability for people. The only people you will attract with that model are the ones who think having upwards of seven alts for being in seven different communities isn’t remotely strange or cumbersome. That, and/or self-hosting your own individual instances. Neither of these describe the behavior of the vast majority of Internet users who want to sign up on a platform that just works with one account that can see and interact with everything.
naught101@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That’s nonsense. I’m on one of the main servers, and like 90% of my feed is from other servers, and it includes lots of small servers. And that’s been true for years.
It’s try the search function was bad prior to earlier this year, but it’s improved a bit. And if you are looking for someone specific, then presumably their account would be listed somewhere on their website?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If there’s one thing a social media site loves, its a drama increase.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m leaving the drama typo. You made it too good to take away