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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Serious question.

  Are u people advocating for humanity just dying off? Why not have kids? That’s normal::: spoiler spoiler

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  • absentbird@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think they’re advocating that women can choose for themselves what kind of person to be, and that fact their bodies are capable of gestating children doesn’t obligate them to do so.

    It’s sort of ike how the fact a man’s body may be capable of entertaining others by dressing their penis up in a tiny coat and hat doesn’t mean we should bully an entire gender into making that the purpose of their existence, nor does it mean we’re advocating for a world without sharp dressed dicks, it’s just a thing people are free to do or not do.

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    • humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is just fighting against the natural way of life.

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      • absentbird@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Noone has to do anything.

        The original tweet essentially said that all women have a mission from God to use their bodies to make babies. At the very least it’s a value judgment on how women live their lives.

        There seems to be a sustained campaign against having kids.

        I have never encountered this. There is absolutely a sustained campaign for bodily autonomy, and for the acceptance of people who choose not to reproduce; but I haven’t encountered anyone talking like the original tweet, saying women have a mission from God to not have kids or something.

        This is just fighting against the natural way of life.

        Here we go again with imposing judgements on people who don’t reproduce. I feel like that’s the bigger ‘sustained campaign’ in this conversation. The natural way of life changes over time, it used to be natural to die young from a bacterial infection, or to have your village sacked by marauders. We don’t need to have the same pressures to keep reproduction high as in the past. Populations are still increasing, but people are out here blaming women for not doing it faster? Just take a breath, it’s going to be okay.

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  • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What exactly did they say that made you draw this conclusion? I’m so curious

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just FYI, my wife has two masters degrees and still was able to get pregnant, give birth and help raise a child with me afterward. So apparently it is possible for women to have advanced university degrees and have kids.

    Incidentally, my mother also has two masters degrees, so apparently that was also possible in the 1970s without the population crashing.

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    • humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nobody says it’s impossible.
      And my wife has a college degree and has no impetus to work at all.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You seem to think suggesting women get advanced degrees means we also think people shouldn’t have babies.

        Also, you seem to be making some stupid “women don’t want to work” claim which is just nonsense.

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