Comment on A patient gamer youtuber explaining why she only plays old games
nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
one of her reasons is “erasure of femininity in gaming” with a screen bemoaning “masculine features” of modern female characters, and her pinned comment says “you know things are bad when oblivion npcs are prettier than some of these new game characters” and also thanks asmongold for sending viewers her way.
so uh, how about no for this hateful garbage.
weker01@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
What here is hateful and if it is who is the hate aimed at?
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
The youtuber is claiming modern games have “masculinized” female characters likely in response to attempts to not sexualize some female characters in contemporary games. Representing this as “erasure of feminity” sounds like a conservative defense of sexism.
Her right-wing views also explains why Asmongold, another streamer, is sending viewers her way. If you’re not familiar, Asmongold has right-wing views himself, and sexist views in particular, for example he was upset that a woman won a fan vote for an esports award, claiming it was a “diversity pick” and she only won because she was a woman. He claims she wasn’t a top streamer despite the fact that she was a top streamer with 6.5 million fans, etc.
The “hate” is typical conservative bigotry, and while nublung’s comment points out the youtuber’s sexism, likely what they meant by “hateful garbage” was the overall ideology which aims at the usual targets:
weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
At the time of writing my comment I did not know about that other YouTuber and am glad I did not encounter them since.
That said I still think that video was not “hateful garbage”. While I do not agree with everything she said, I do think she makes some valid points and in other parts she represents her subjective tastes in video games.
Guilt by association is not itself a fallacy in all cases but here I think it unfair to not engage with the actual topic at all. This just furthers division instead of finding common ground.
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yes, I do think there is a tendency to condemn people from their associations, and that can lead to unfair characterizations - though I don’t think this is one of those cases.
Actually watching some of the video, her comments align pretty directly with conservative talking points and builds upon existing conservative “arguments” and outrage about the influence of feminism on video games.
I think nublung is basically suggesting we shouldn’t be sharing bigoted or hateful perspectives, which I agree with.