Comment on [Cory Doctorow] With An Audacious Plan To Halt The Internet’s Enshittification And Throw It Into Reverse

Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• LazerFX@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It was a term coined to describe the step-by-step process modern tech platforms go through:

  1. be good, get customers, grow
  2. get large enough to corner market, concentrate on profits
  3. get large enough to move to politicise their approach, drive out competition through aggressive tactics, and lock in consumers
  4. drive more profit through dark patterns and ensure nobody wins but the stakeholders

  It’s specifically that, and there wasn’t a word that described that process previously, as it’s only something that’s possible in a modern, “web scale” worldwide platform.

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  • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Maybe I’m just thinking the crudeness of the term is downplaying the seriousness somewhat.

    I’ll award virtual internet points that you can redeem for absolutely nothing to anyone who can come up with a better term.

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    • kureta@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      To late. it is a widely used term with a very specific meaning now. that’s language for you. not just modern language. all of language.

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      • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah, you’re right. If I’d have spoken up earlier then people would have listened!

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    • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe you could call it recoupment but it doesn’t have quite the same ring. It’s not quite the same thing, either.

      You could also talk about coercive monopolies but that doesn’t mean exactly the same thing.

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• Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I mean its a bombasticatic term for “capital accumulation” in the tech sector.

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• C126@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I can’t be bothered to look up the correct word, what is it?

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  • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Don’t ask me, my English is abysmal.

    Worsening, decline?

    Maybe there isn’t a single word.

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    • prof_wafflez@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It seems superfluous to complain about a word’s use when you don’t have a better alternative. Language is ever growing and evolving, especially slang. A English speaking time traveler would not be able to communicate very well with English speakers from 500 years ago. Let people have their things.

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      • Zip2@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Ruination.

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  • C126@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I was wrong, I could be bothered. None of the alternatives were really great or obviously a better word. Closest I came up with was “quality erosion”, but it doesn’t convey the same feeling of anger and sadness.

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