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NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

Hoping things will turn out great is for idiots.

So rather than advocate for some vagueries that are primed to be corrupted… maybe actually start with those specific actionable laws to establish precedent that can be worked on.

Because a judge who has no idea what a vidya game is: “Oh, my grandson plays that gotchinson impact game. He is a good kid so clearly this is a different problem and this case is trash”. Or, more likely “Minecraft?!?! THAT IS THE GAME WHERE YOU HAVE UNCENSORED SEX WITH PROSTITUTES AND THEN MURDER THEM!!!”. Because the vast majority of court cases don’t have proper experts involved but still lead to precedent that can cause problems down the line. Hence why there is a lot of pressure to settle when “tech” ends up in court.

Also: If your only argument is that I am not taking the “Stop Killing Games” movement seriously enough? You don’t have one. Which… is par for the course.

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

Hoping things will turn out great is for idiots.

I agree. Hence this initiative. Nothing will change without action, is this is the action that EU citizens can feasibly take. I’ve written my legislators, and that’s about all I can do in the US, other than spread the word on social media.

Also: If your only argument is that I am not taking the “Stop Killing Games” movement seriously enough? You don’t have one. Which… is par for the course.

I wasn’t making that argument at all.

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- NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  I agree. Hence this initiative. Nothing will change without action, is this is the action that EU citizens can feasibly take. I’ve written my legislators, and that’s about all I can do in the US, other than spread the word on social media.
  
  Relying on favorable interpretations of “reasonably functional” is just begging lobbyists and lawyers to ruin it for everyone.
  
  Pushing for legislature with specifics that are actually good is how we get precedent.
  
  “Stop Killing Games” is the former and most of “the movement” is twitch streamers telling their audiences what they want to hear.
  
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  - ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    The industry has already ruined it for everyone. This is the best plan we’ve got to fix it.
    
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  - gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    Relying on favorable interpretations of “reasonably functional” is just begging lobbyists and lawyers to ruin it for everyone.
    
    As is explained by Ross in the very video good over this initiative:
    
    If it’s successful in getting the votes then the EU will base what they do off of expert opinion and consultation. You’re going in with the assumption that it’ll work exactly as it does in the US it seems, which is silly as shit to do
    
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    NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Ah, my mistake. I was not aware that lobbyists and special interest groups did not exist in the EU, that only the most qualified of consultants were hired, and that all laws were perfect.
    
    Again, there is a way to set this up to win and there is a way to set this up for knee jerk reactions and “I trust 420JustBlazeItGaming_XXX because they are advocating on my behalf. I should use their offer code for tv dinners”. This is very much the latter.
    
    But it is also being done in a way that, should this get enough traction in the demographics that actually matter, it can lead to a lot of bad legislation that will have global implications.
    
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