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Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  They have a battleeye proton build that devs can choose to ship with if you use that, but for some reason most (including GTA V online) just… Decide not to use it.

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  • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is exactly how we know that they are actively trying to exclude Linux users and it never has been “too much development effort with too little market share”. They won’t tick the check box in EAC to allow use in Linux. They actively aim to exclude the open-source community because they are big corporations and would rather a different big corporation hold some of the power they don’t have yet instead of the “consumer”.

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  • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “some reason” = anticheats are less effective on Linux, and publishers rather have fewer Linux players than more cheaters.

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• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Eeh… I’d respectfully disagree on the anti-cheat being the only real hurdle right now.

  Modding is still a massive pita and janky compared to windows, as an example.

  Don’t get me wrong, Linux gaming has advanced entire geologic eras compared to where it was 10 years ago, 5 years ago, hell… even last year. I dont even have to reference protondb anymore, I just expect things to work in general, and they usually do, outside of the minority of games with asshole anticheat (most of that can even be run on linux, they just refuse to enable the option)

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  • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As much as it frustrates me that this is the best option for various reasons, there is at least now a native nexusmods client.

    Granted, if your game isn’t supported by it and given that it’s early days, I do still agree with you.

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      the new mod client from nexus will be great, but I’d wager it’d be another year before its in a non-test state.

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    • terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Doesn’t it currently only support like one or two games? I have a grandfathered premium account. It’s a must for me for the few games I used to mod. Not to mention all the other mod utilities that outright don’t work. Things the community has built. Not mad at them for not making another version of their apps.

      Maybe one solution is for most games to have some kind of built in mod support? Bg3 basically did it. CP77 also kinda tried.

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      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It only supports Stardew Valley and Cyberpunk at the moment iirc.

        Cyberpunk is a good one though, cause it requires running external .exe files for some of the mods to install/run. Which I hope they get working, cause thats also kind of a problem games Skyrim/Fallout/Starfield have, in that the most essential mod is Script Extender, and trying to find a way to launch it on linux that will launch the game.

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      • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Still very early days, yes. R2modman supports more games also.

        It’s definitely helpful for games to support their own modders also, and I can understand why most don’t put in the effort.

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  • kritzkrieg@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Tbh, you’d think modding would be easier with Linux’s file system, but no, it’s pretty bad. I really do wonder why that is.

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    • ag10n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Linux is really good at sandboxing and containerizing things. Not to mention the display manager/server changes from system to system and is optional.

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As someone who spent 2 hours fixing Reloaded II on steam deck because Sega purposely broke mods, I can agree with the statement “modding is still a massive pain in the ass” 200%

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, I’ve spent so much time smashing my head against the wall trying to resolve issues that would be very simple to solve on windows, largely cause windows is the native platform for a lot of this shit so its just inherently easier there.

      The best example of that was setting up Stalker Anomaly. Good god was that a fucking nightmare. Cyberpunks not to fun either trying to get the mods set up.

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