If someone is strong enough to break down my door even when they’re starving, I’m gunning them down and asking questions later.
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months agoSorry, not good enough definitions.
A starving man on death’s door manages to break into your home to steal a loaf of bread. You have a gun and see him do it.
Who is the strong one and who is the weak one there? Who is acting in self-defense there?
And I am happy to explain that if you shot and killed the man in that situation, you would be taking advantage of their weakness.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 3 months ago
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You know there are these things called ‘windows’ that you can break easily and climb through, yes?
Also, I thought you were done talking to me. Make up your mind.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I repeat my point: if someone is trying to break in my window- I’m shooting first and asking questions later
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Which makes them the weak one and your claim of self-defense a spurious one. You don’t actually know if you’re in danger.
Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Wait, I’m no pro gun person, but like if some fucking random breaks into my house even to steal bread, you can bet your as I’m threatening them back out with a knife or some shit. How would anyone know that they’re there as a poor person stealing bread and not to mess with your family? I doubt you or anyone else would act differently under that pressure short of being really well trained in conflict diffusion. This whole thing seems super disengenous.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I thought this was about shooting people?
Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Let me make it clear then, if a gun was around I would threaten them out / shoot them with the gun if they wouldnt leave. Pick your tool and I would at least try to use it. The part of Your strength argument that I don’t think makes sense and isn’t real is that if a poor person breaks into your house that you would allow them to steal from you from a high moral stand point and manage some sort of completely calm demeanour because you somehow know that they are someone in need and not there to hurt you or your family.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Okay, but you’re making a completely different argument than the person I am discussing is making. Especially since you mentioned a knife before. You can chase someone like that out of your home without a gun.
Really, most home invaders can be driven out with a baseball bat. The ones that can’t… I guess be prepared to murder them.
Also, with a bat, you’re less likely to kill a family member you think is a criminal you’re defending yourself from.