Comment on NAS vs larger server

greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am however considering 10G ethernet cards for it and my desktop and just doing point-to-point. Not that 1G is too slow for my needs, but because it’d be fun.

  I just bought a QNAS. Thoughts?

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  • TheHolm@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use QNAPs for literary decades. I’m now in my 3d one. I love that they supports their devices for long time. But their software is getting more features, but quality IMHO is going down. I would now build NAS myself and not buy QNAP. Not having option with ECC RAM is also disappointing, but probably ok for home usage.

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  • greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can you just put stock ubuntu on it? Is the CPU worth a damn?

    If it can’t do either of those, it is manufactured ewaste, imo.

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• dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thanks for the input. Would you recommend having a separate NAS system, or replacing my current server with it?

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  • greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d consolidate to let it pay for itself over the longer term in electricity savings.

    My single NAS runs everything I could ever want, though I regret not finding a used 6700k, finding out teh 6600k didn’t have HT.

    Also, I run frigate on it inside a container and use a Google Coral Accellerator to people-detection from 4x2k camera streams. Its pretty swish, though it took some fiddling to get the kernel to be groovy with it and do container-device passthru from PCI-e.

    In total, my single NAS runs the following in containers:

    • Personal projects
    • Home Assistant
    • MQTT for Tasmota
    • Game servers
    • Deluge for yarr harr fiddly dee
    • Frigate NVR

    The whole shebang, NAS, UPS, ISP Modem and Ubiquity Dream Machine run ~100W.

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    • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are you running something like Unraid or TrueNAS, or are you just running a ‘regular’ Linux distro?

      Also, I run frigate on it inside a container and use a Google Coral Accellerator to people-detection from 4x2k camera streams.

      I’m doing something similar, except using Blue Iris and CodeProject.AI instead of Frigate. Works pretty well! CodeProject AI just added Coral support recently.

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      • greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How much power does just the NAS use?

        the NAS is the bulk of the 100W.

        Are you running something like Unraid or TrueNAS, or are you just running a ‘regular’ Linux distro?

        Ubuntu + ZFS. I don’t see the appeal of running a non-mainline distribution. All I did was set it up so ZFS sends me emails and a crontab to run a ZFS resilver weekly.

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  • KeepFlying@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Personally I like to keep my data on a separate system because it helps me keep it stable and secure compared to my more “fun” servers.

    That said, being able to run compute on the same server as storage removes a bit of hassle.

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    • greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Run your fun things in containers and you can’t make a mess of the host.

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• thomcat@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What’s your power utilization with the 6600k? I have a spare one of those lying around and would convert my Ryzen 3950X AIO to just a server w/ a 6600k NAS if it doesn’t cost you too much.

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  • greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It and some other network appliance bits draw ~ 100W continuous.

    I think a good chunk of that is the disks, but I could be wrong.

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• dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do you use ECC RAM? The Synology comes with ECC RAM, whereas it’s hard to find consumer motherboards that support ECC :/

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  • greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Another reason to avoid a Synology. I had a HP Microserver gen 8 that I ditched due to CPU constraints and ECC ram. Just got 32G of cheap DDR4.

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