Comment on If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• supertonik@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’ve always found it amusing when people try to use logic to state that Jesus did this and this and it isn’t logical or God isn’t logical.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Who’s saying God isn’t logical?

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    • HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well, not to get into a theological debate here but there are many logical inconsistencies and paradoxes with religion in general.

      Stuff like the “can God create a stone so large that he cannot lift it”; or just seeing all the suffering in the world and trying to justify why a benevolent, all seeing, all knowing, omnipotent being would allow kids to get cancer - either god is not capable to fix it or doesn’t care, neither of which is a great outcome.

      Just applying Occam’s Razor in general makes religion pretty far fetched, especially the more hardline old testament you go: God creating the earth, Noah and the flood, etc. There is just a much simpler explanation to all of it.

      I mean no offence to religious people in general, in fact I think religion can be very useful for some to find a purpose or belonging in their lives. I just find the cognitive dissonance of religion impossible to reconcile with reality.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I think the Problem of Evil actually makes sense when you consider eternity and infinity. The infinity that God is and Eternity that Heaven is, earthly sufferings really will be seen to be nothing. You probably don’t worry about that exam anymore that you were studying for as a kid. As for the boulder thing, you may as well say maths is illogical as “can you make something greater than infinity” while infinity + 1 is equal to infinity.

        As for Occam’s razor- how does it explain the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ? There’s not really a simple explanation to why 2000 years ago, a lot of guys simultaneously told of the same dude who rose from the dead, then lived a life of suffering and no gain and end up dying because they wouldn’t claim to be wrong. Along with hundreds of these early Christians turning into thousands. Something big did happen - we count our years by it. It’s as if God actually did enter earth as a human.

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    • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I am

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    • supertonik@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Seems to be a common rhetoric.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Most logical explanation to everything I think

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