There are many ways to gain your “compliance”. Prisons must provide basic meals by law, but they can undercut the necessary calories and vitamins, so that if you’re not buying food from the prison shop, you’re likely to get sick (and eventually die). They can make your work status a factor in whether to grant you parole. They can transfer unwilling folk to the more dangerous units or prisons… So many easy options to gain compliance, if you don’t care about human rights.
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MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
As a prisoner, what happens if you refuse? Like, in that position I’d just say no, then they’d likely throw me in the hole, but that’s a lot better than being a slave from what I can tell.
orcrist@lemm.ee 2 months ago
MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Cutting my food would just make it more akin to life now, so they won’t have much luck there. Getting parole I generally wouldn’t expect, but when facing a parole board I’d mention that being a slave falls under my own definition of cruel and unusual, so I refuse, and if that doesn’t sway them, I’m likely fucked regardless. Being transferred to a more dangerous unit would likely lead to death, but as I’ve said multiple times in this post, better dead than a slave. Overall, if my choices are slavery that likely ends in being maimed and then death, or not being a slave and then dying, I’ll take the latter any day of the week.
solrize@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There is some analysis described here: news.uchicago.edu/…/us-prison-labor-programs-viol…
MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, as I said in another comment, better dead than a slave.
MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is it? At least you would have something to do other than sit there.
This is NOT me saying that this is OK in any way. Just that “the hole” would be fucking awful. Lack of stimulation is torture.
MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Who need stimulation? Sleep is stimulating enough. Also, I’m pretty adept at creating games and tiny things to occupy my mind and time. Being a kid pre internet with few homies around definitely prepared me for such an occurrence. And I get it, it’d be that but for months on end, but if it prevents me from being a slave, then such is life.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A friend of mine was arrested while he was sick, so they put him straight into solitary for medical isolation. Once he had surgery and recovered, they relocated him to the panopticon area. He said it felt like getting out of jail, he was so happy just to not be in solitary anymore.
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They could put you in the sun for several hours with no shade, ice, or water then pretend it wasn’t manslaughter when you die from heat exposure at 27
apnews.com/…/georgia-prison-death-heat-lawsuit-de…
MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Better dead than a slave any day.
Klear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re so smart! You solved slavery!
MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ok… 👍
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Isn’t that genocide? You think slavery conditions that are so bad people die is a good thing?
MrFappy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
wtf are you smoking? I am speaking from my own personal opinion that I’d rather be dead than a slave any day. If someone else in the system wants to be a slave, that’s on them. But I would rather die than work for pennies or less of compensation just to line the pockets of some already wealthy corporation.