Comment on Why are so many boys and men feeling alone and in the cold?

• Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Rather than make snarky, half-arsed replies why not take the time to articulate why you think “toxic masculinity” is such a problematic term? Why not engage in good faith with other people instead of instantly trying to turn this into yet another polarised yawnfest argument?

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  • SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    why not take the time to articulate why you think “toxic masculinity” is such a problematic term?

    I did in my first reply:

    a gendered term to refer to behavior that’s not ok in either gender

    snarky, half-arsed replies

    Projecting much?

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    • Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Opening with “ah yes” followed immediately by sarcasm is snarky. And yes, 13 words is a pretty half-arsed attempt. I think you can do better.

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      • SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think you can do better.

        Sure, for which of the 13 words do you more context to understand?

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    • IHeartBadCode@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I did in my first reply

      Look I get the knee jerk on hearing male. "Oh we're talking about masculinity, that's an attack on me." But the topic at hand is masculinity.

      Why are so many boys and men feeling alone and in the cold?

      Yes, toxic behaviors exists in both mainstream genders. Shallow ass women who play on male insecurities is a thing. BUT that's not the topic here. Like, you shoving the whole "but the other side" thing really comes like someone walking into a hospital being outraged they aren't going to do a quick dental clean while you're there. You're in the wrong place. There is such a place to go to, but it ain't here.

      I mean nothing but love for ya, but the knee jerk comes off a bit hard. Like we can have that discussion, but honest, I don't think this is the thread for it. It feels like it detracts from introspecting by way of blaming the other team. I'm not downvoting you, I get where you're coming from. But I just feel it's distraction.

      And that is my opinion on the matter and nothing more.

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      • SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        you shoving the whole “but the other side”

        You entirely miss the important point here. It’s not about “muh other side”. It’s about sending young boys the message “toxic masculinity” over and over while they grow up and are trying to explore what masculinity means to them. Sure, if you give them a seminar on what “toxic masculinity” is supposed to mean every time you use the term, some of them might understand what you’re trying to say, but that’s not what’s happening. And every time a young boy questions the term in confusion he will be attacked “but the other side” yadda is not valid like you just did to me.

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