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OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 months ago
I don’t mind communism. I do mind advocating for Russia, in a war where they are clearly the aggressor, and harassing then moving to harass the same left wing for not being as radical or as pro-russian and deluding themselves with false beliefs that they are alone and no one is left wing other than them
InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 2 months ago
EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Totally agree with you. During the issue , there were some people that had a backhanded way of asking what i meant when I said that Russia had no reason to invade Ukraine. So I said that Putin was trying to get his glorious USSR back. I wasn’t being literal, but the past 20 years shows that he has been trying to annex states that were previously under the USSR or at the very least keeping extremely close, controllable ties with them. I got ridiculed and belittled without further request of clarification. And I think it’s because they aren’t interested or they are under the Russian propaganda machine.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
[Do you have any evidence of Putin wishing to reinstate the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? Why is Putin moving in a Capitalist direction, rather than Socialist? Why is the conflict specifically centered around regions of Ukraine, not the entirety, and why Ukraine specifically?
Do you believe history to be decided by Great Men, or by Material Conditions? ](hexbear.net/comment/5347276)
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This person is saying Putin wants the territory back, not the government system. They even say the statement was hyperbolic.
Objection@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Now they say that. They also lied and said that they weren’t asked any clarifying questions, when the linked comment proves that they very clearly were. They’re just trying to backtrack their unreasonable claims after the fact to make the response they got seem more disproportionate.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 months ago
He also pretty much said as much during his initial ramblings during the invasion- that ukraine and other former Soviet states are rightfully a part of Russia.
EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 months ago
But in their eyes, I’m the crazy, illiterate, stupid lib
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And yaknow, I wouldn’t even mind being viewed that way. It’s the shitty moderation style I will mock endlessly.
SirDerpy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can’t deliver garbage writing to communists and expect positive results. The standard of semantics and nuance are set by socio-economic authors predominantly from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. Prerequisite to even speaking is a comprehensive understanding of at least The Conquest of Bread. One is expected to have the ability to segregate content from presentation and ideology from means of implementation. It’s as if you walked into university dynamics and poorly presented an algebra-based approach to a single body problem.
In certain forums, unless I’m very well-informed about a topic, I’ve learned to shut the fuck up unless asking questions, and to ask them with humility. In communist forums, which always stress education, I consistently receive high quality answers.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This is a core principle in Communist organization. “No investigation, no right to speak.” As a consequence, discussion tends to be better-informed in my experience.
SirDerpy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes.
If I invest effort into figuring it out for myself and demonstrate that effort in the quality of my questions then nearly every teacher will at least match my investment. In the US teachers are so starved for good students that one-on-one education is free, from philosophy professors to diesel mechanics. One doesn’t even need be past the “nonsense” stage, only recognize their status and ask what pieces of the puzzle they’re missing.
EABOD25@lemm.ee 2 months ago
It seems to me you’re under the belief that they can say and believe whatever they want without criticism, but they shouldn’t be allowed to be criticized. Also, I see you have used the phrase “neolib,” so your beliefs are probably more in line with theirs than mine are. Of course, you’re not going to be criticized. However, I do have the right to critique the approach with their criticism. The short-and-skinny of what I observed is that they can dish it out, but can’t take it. It’s irrational and a very closed off way if thinking. If they want to be talked to and about in a certain way, then they themselves need to do the same
SirDerpy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You delivered nonsense without even considering semantic. You felt entitled to others figuring it out for you. And, you were rejected due to your lack of effort.
I’ll now reject you for gaslighting me about your comments, which I’ve read, and the follow up strawman.
It’s simply not good enough. I don’t care why. But, I know you’ve nothing to contribute but practice material for identifying logical fallacy.