Comment on Solar will get too cheap to connect to the power grid.

• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s fair, but the reason it’s not economical right now is mostly poorly thought out contracts and subsidies. We are already paying for this mess.

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  • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    From the calculations I’ve seen in recent scientific reports, that doesn’t seem to be the case, barring major economic changes on a global level.

    Even the cheapest grid scale storage solutions are an order of magnitude more expensive than constructing more electrical generation capacity.

    Particularly closed cycle fossil gas thermal plants have a massive advantage in markets where variable renewable electricity generation (wind, solar…) achieve high degrees of market penetration due to the volatility they cause in the grid.

    Hydro, transmission and nuclear are currently the most accessible non-fossil options to counteract the disadvantages of solar & wind.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is your area not undergoing a massive expansion? I’m in NW Florida, hardly a hotbed of environmentalism, and brother, business is booming.

  I fully expect the 20-miles between the edge of town and my camp to be covered in the next decade. Any non-residential and non-commercial land is getting bought up and covered. I expect to see solar panels all they way in the space between the interstate and the state highway, already a few spots where you can see clear from one road to the other over the panels. Very exciting!

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  • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Where I live (Sweden) our grid has been essentially fossil-free since the early 90’s, thus we haven’t had the same need. Particularly since our electricity prices (excluding grid fees) already dip into the negatives in the summer, and solar is useless in the winter (<3hrs of light and snow cover).

    Unfortunately though, recent politically motivated shutterings of nuclear plants during the 2010s combined with higher volatility in continental Europe has led to the volatility of our own electricity market skyrocketing, and more decentralized electricity production has led to huge increases in grid fees (state monopoly).

    During a recent winter we had prices (when accounting for taxes and fees) in excess of 1$/kWh. This, in a country where almost all heating is electric, is disastrous. For context, we live in a small villa with a geothermal pump, and despite keeping indoor temps as low as 12°C at times we ended up with 1000s of USD equivalent in power bills for the winters 22/23 and 23/24.

    Quite sad really.

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