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Blaze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can probably add !games@lemmy.world (disclosure, I’m a moderator)

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  • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hello!

    Question for you: have you ever considered moving your community to another instance, like !games@sh.itjust.works, to spread the communities a bit out of Lemmy.world?

    Centralization creates technical issues, at the moment aussie.zone have a week delay with LW as it is too large ( lemmy.world/post/15634599 ). There was another issue in the past, where instances like lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemdro.id, lemmy.nz, reddthat.com were impacted : lemmy.world/post/13967373

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    • Dremor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m only a moderator, that’s not a decision I’d be taking alone.

      Problem is that a community as broad as a gaming one is bound to be subscribed my many user on many instances. Switching it to another one will only move the problem elsewhere, not fix it.

      Still, if that’s a problem, we could research other courses of actions, like dividing LW in multiple sub-instances for broad topics. The idea would be to get all gaming related community on “games.lemmy.world”, and getting most games related communities to switch there, so external instances can subscribe to that specific instance without receiving all the other updates from other communities. That would also make it a lot easier to scale the servers to the right size for the right use.

      But once again that’s not my decision to take.

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      • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Problem is that a community as broad as a gaming one is bound to be subscribed my many user on many instances. Switching it to another one will only move the problem elsewhere, not fix it.

        Is it? I always feel like for every topic the schema is

        • a community on LW
        • a community on another instance that exists mostly to avoid centralization on LW

        Examples

        • !android@lemdro.id vs !android@lemmy.world
        • !games@sh.itjust.works vs games@lemmy.world
        • !movies@lemm.ee vs !movies@lemmy.world

        That does not automatically mean that the LW community is “too full”, just that some users want to use other instances as well

        There was a while ago the example of !mapporn@lemmy.world vs !map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz

        As the sopuli community was more active, the LW admins closed down the LW one to focus all the activity on a single community

        The idea would be to get all gaming related community on “games.lemmy.world”, and getting most games related communities to switch there, so external instances can subscribe to that specific instance without receiving all the other updates from other communities.

        Seems very close to just hosting communities on other instances? From your message, I feel like people on LW want to keep communities on “LW instances”, I’m wondering why. Is it due to distrust with other instances? Lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works and lemmy.zip have been around as long as LW, have transparent financial reports and high availability times.

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    • simple@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m the most active postee there (hello again). I prefer LW’s gaming community for a few reasons, a lot of which are kind of petty but still.

      1. I dislike the shitjustworks domain name, I think it’ll hamper community growth when a casual user base joins and thinks it’s a dumb name

      2. The people there often mirror /r/games posts, there’s nothing wrong with that and I enjoy browsing it, but I enjoy the more quality over quantity of LW’s community

      3. games@lemmy.world has clean icons and branding which is cool

      But mostly it’s just reluctance to move away from the largest gaming community in Lemmy. Content is hard to find, and I talked about this many times, leaving LW communities means splitting the userbase even more and wondering where the content is. If having a large instance causes technical issues, that’s more of Lemmy’s problem IMO.

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      • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Additional small comment: just had a look at the community, well done for the AMA with the game developer!

        To be honest, this community seems nice and we’ll run, my comment was more targeting at LW communities almost “name squatting”, which is definitely not the case here, well done!

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      • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Hello,

        Thank you for commenting!

        I agree with you with points 1 and 2.

        Content is hard to find, and I talked about this many times, leaving LW communities means splitting the userbase even more and wondering where the content is.

        Agreed on discoverability, that’s why we now have those threads, and that !newcommunities@lemmy.world is featured at the top of LW’s home page.

        On the other hand, sometimes it’s a bit frustrating. !movies@lemm.ee is now more active and with more content than the LW version, but some people still keep posting to it, while we offered moderation position to anyone who would like to (looking at you, !moviesandtv@lemm.ee ), and Lemm.ee is a well established instance with a neutral domain name.

        I moved !casualconversation@lemmy.world to !casualconversation@lemm.ee , left a pinned post there so that people could find the new community, it’s more active now that it used to be on LW.

        Anyway, that’s it for me, again thank you for your comment.

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