Comment on US: Alaska man busted with 10,000+ child sex abuse images despite his many encrypted apps

shamrockpreacher5@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Wilzax@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you distribute encrypted materials you also need to distribute a means of decryption. I’m willing to bet a honeypot was used to trick him into distributing his csam right to the government hinself.

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  • shamrockpreacher5@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    True. Or it could have been a backdoor in his phone, or the full running browser in his sim card, or the backdoor into his CPU chips… Maybe they do old fashioned police work for these cases and only use the pegasus spyware for others?

    Pretty silly to do anything illegal on a computer when we know how flawed they are, imo

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• mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Neither Tor nor end-to-end encrypted messengers will cover the endpoints. It’s likely that they caught him using good old fashioned detective work.

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  • Vilian@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tor was created by NSA, half of Tor servers are run by NSA, not that secure

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    • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tor was created by the NRL, which is a part of the US Navy and Marine Corps.

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    • psmgx@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tor was created by the Naval Research Labs, and was released to the public because it is secure.

      The problem is that if it’s only the CIA or DIA using it, it’s easy figure out who is using it and where. Make it global and now there is a lot of noise to separate out.

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  • mkwt@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well it probably wasn’t a Vic Mackey-style rubber hose attack, because it sounds like this chump is getting hauled into court.

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please don’t talk about child predators, and use the term “back door” in the same sentence. It ain’t right…

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    • yoshisaur@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      we’re talking about encryption here, not…that. please get your mind out of the gutter

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• CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  He didn’t use encrypted everything. He had a public telegram group chat in which he stored a lot of his material. Which, as many people in the comments on the article pointed out, is not encrypted, but is presented by telegram as if it is. That’s likely how they caught him.

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be clear, it’s encrypted*.

    • If you enable it

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    • Deello@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Recent events have taught me that only individual chats are encrypted*. Group chats don’t have that feature.

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      • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In telegram nothing is e2e encrypted unless you specifically ask it to be and when you do, it kills all the functionality that makes it better than others.

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    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Telegram groups are not E2E.

      Chats are encrypted, but the servers hold the encryption keys (I believe).

      There are one-to-one chats that are full e2e, but you have to enable it. And it has all sorts of compromises.

      Qualifier: this is as dicumented by telegram. Since it’s not open source, we can’t really verify it

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    • uzay@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is no point in encrypting a public group chat since anyone can join and decrypt it anyway.

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      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The secret chats feature isn’t between anyone I believe, it’s between two people. But I don’t actually know for certain because I’ve not looked into it beyond a cursory googling.

        That said, you’d be correct in that just like any service out there, the moment you let random people join there’s no level of encryption that can keep your secrets secret.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It works well in Matrix, and you can restrict who joins on that platform.

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    • datendefekt@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      AFAIK chat contents are stored unencrypted on the server.

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• Sneptaur@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They got it by running a honeypot exit node like they always do

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• brezel@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  my guess is that a large number of tor exit nodes is run by government agencies.

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  • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Certainly some are. How many is an entertaining question.

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  • Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    .onions: am i a joke to you?

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• Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s better they don’t disclose it and catch more people doing the same.

  I’m all for transparency but if that means less caught child molesters, I’m ok with a little obfuscation, even from the fucking pigs.

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