Comment on Climate scientists flee Twitter as hostility surges

• Eximius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If by ignore, you mean stop paying taxes and working in any capacity for government in one go, yes would work. The only fear is being singled out, if more than 0.5% of the people do it, army wont even have the guts to get tanks out, they will join.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Touché

    Venezuela has ~70% of the people against the regime, (nearly 90% counting the 5M that were not allowed to vote) and the needle isn’t even moving.

    And in Russia being “singled out” is apparently a national tradition.

    Sorry, I may be over pessimistic today.

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    • Eximius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess that’s a fair example. But logically sounds impossible for such control to be made. If a group went out to the streets to oust the government, you would say at least 45% would join.

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No. Dunno where did you take that 0.5% from, it’s not empirically confirmed by anything.

    Like 20% if you want to see civil war. Like 40% if you want to see regime change.

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    • Eximius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is the semi-usually-known research that suggests 3.5% is enough for non-violent protests to reach changes. www.jstor.org/stable/10.7312/chen15682

      1 in 200 people is essentially everyone knowing personally one person who is against the government. Maybe it isn’t enough.

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It doesn’t work. It’s some urban legend that this is sufficient. Even those 600k may or may not be stopped by a threat of real ammo being used. I’m not even talking about coordination.

        One can “prove” anything with selectively chosen statistics.

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• tourist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pardon my ignorance. I may have a mild brain injury.

  Could you perhaps rephrase?

  I’m not sure if I understood what you said.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In IT (the movie and, i presume, also in the book) ::: spoiler spoiler The kids realize that IT feeds on attention and that the only way to fight it is by ignoring it :::

    Imo, shitter (X) is a cesspool as it is now, but I dont believe that leaving it to the hordes is a solution to anything. We need a better approach to deal with this people.

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    • tourist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, that makes sense. I thought you meant IT as in information technology. Was very confused.

      Brain still problems good yey

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    • gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ??? no he feeds on fear, the way they defeat it is not being afraid

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