Comment on Telegram repeatedly refused to join child protection schemes

• Count042@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean… Yes?

  They don’t need to lie to sell their oppression. They just do it because they’re authoritarian.

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  • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    LOL, this is a joke right? Authoritarian countries don’t lie about reasons for doing things? LMAO

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    • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well when Russia blocked Telegram it was just because Telegram refused to send them their users data. Simple. Now France seem to be sentencing a person to live in prison because Telegram still refuses to send them their users data. But they claim it’s for the children. Same shit, different excuse.

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      • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure, but what the person I replied to is claiming is that e.g. North Korea doesn’t lie to its people about reasons it does things, which is, of course, bullshit.

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• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Authoritarian regimes also do the same, although often with adult consentual porn instead of CSAM.

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The authoritarian South Korea.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ayo. The country that has

      • a stifling work culture
      • zero tolerance porn laws
      • full blown internet censorship
      • chaebols
      • harsh punishment on even the softest of "drugs"
      • miniscule support for new families

      is definitely not authoritarian.

      It’s okay. With the childbirth rate they have currently, they don’t have to worry for much longer. Let’s just squeeze the last out of the current generations.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More like a colony of an authoritarian empire.

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• Doorbook@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Authoritian regimes doesnt need to pretend. If they find out you are a risk they don’t need to gather evidence to get you in prison, so they don’t need to pretend they care about censoring the internet for the wrong reasons.

  The issue here is the west want to do the same but need a valid justification. Instead of work to stop the actual abuse in the first place they want access to the only way for many people to share information safely.

  You could be technically letrate and find your way around all the restrictions, but many people are not and they need access to secure communication channels to arrange there activism.

  The fact we don’t see backlash against twitter, Facebook, Google, and Apple tells alot about what is this about.

  The fact we are seeing more support for “consent” for kids, and the fact that there were many major cases such as Epstein and Maxwell which has been obscured or even hidden when it comes to major profilic people says alot about their intent.

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They do need to pretend, because they need assistance from supposedly civilized states in their actions covered by that pretense.

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