I got bad news about ICE cars made in the past decade.
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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks agoYup, that’s why I don’t buy that crap. I would love an EV, but they all seem to spy on their drivers and I’m concerned that all that spyware isn’t properly protected anyway.
An EV really shouldn’t be all that complicated, and there’s zero reason for it to connect to the outside world. All it needs to do is:
- charge the battery
- regulate the battery’s temperature
- discharge the battery to make it go
None of that requires power, and that whole process is much simpler than my ICE car, which doesn’t have any external communication either. Give me an EV without all the smart crap and I’ll probably buy it.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah, we’re looking to upgrade our car, and unfortunately one of my requirement now needs to be “has a YouTube video detailing how to disable internet features.” I just want a simple, easy to maintain car that doesn’t spy on me, why is that so big of an ask?
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, this is why I’m not new car shopping. Like, ever. I’m done. I’ll drive my Crosstrek until the engine falls out, and then I’ll replace said engine with an EV powertrain and drive it some more.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because of capitalism. Good luck.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Sounds like a copout. I blame consumers who bought this trash when it launched, and continue buying this trash today. Car companies build what consumers claim to want, and then they monetize it as much as they can. People responded favorably to SW unlocks early on, so now car manufacturers are seeing what they can get away with. They’re getting pushback, which is great, but the proper time to push back was 10 years ago.
perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s not an EV issue that’s a modern car issue. One of the worst privacy risks was Buick which didn’t even make EVs.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I feel like it largely started with EVs though, since they came with all of the smart crap out of the gate.
femtech@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
That’s just when you noticed. High end models of cars had that since OnStar.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Sure, but OnStar is largely limited to GM vehicles and, as you said, certain high-end models as an option. Also, remote start was an option on a number of vehicles going years back.
The change with EVs is that the smart crap is in the base models, so you can’t get a model that doesn’t phone home. With OnStar, it’s usually as simple as removing the infotainment screen and disconnecting a cable to disable it, whereas newer cars are a lot more complicated to disable the phone home features, and may not work without them.
I blame EVs for normalizing it, as well as making it more difficult to disable that crap.