N3M

@N3M@reddthat.com

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why ActivityPub over Nostr? - function only⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  As of more recently:

  • The identity system is still the same, keys aren’t rotatable and still the core of your account. Outside of edge cases like Frost Bunkers (outsourcing key management to a cluster of third party servers), or platforms like DiVine letting you register with an email, keys remain pretty much the same.
  • Private infomration like DMs have been altered. They’re still E2E encrypted, but now only the people involved in the conversation can request a copy of the encrypted DM (I assume that’s what you’re referring to, but I may be mistaken).
  • Media attachements are usually uploaded to Blossom servers now. Standard notes still only embed remote media, but the ecosystem has a semi decentralized means of hosting content, and most clients will have a more standard ‘upload and share’ type of feature that most other platforms/protocols have.
  • The more recent outbox model (on supported clients) allows you to set the relays that will host your content and replies/reactions to your content, diversifying the ecosystem away from a handful of big relays. Software like Ditto also provides a more Mastodon community style experience - even to the extent of supporting the Mastodon API.
• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why ActivityPub over Nostr? - function only⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I’m kind of the oppisite in that I prefer Nostr over ActivityPub, but both have their merits. As for technical ways Activity Pub has a leg up:

  • Comunities - Activity Pub is built around individual instances, with people able to join communities focused on their interests and/or that have their preferred moderation policies. Some software exists to do similar things on Nostr, but that’s not what most people use.
  • Platforms - In a similar vein, Activity Pub is probably easier to make a platform out of, be it Meta making Threads or you making your own social media service for your friends. On Nostr people’s accounts exist outside of the infrastructure they use, so it’d be hard to provide a more unified experience.
  • Ease of Use - Activity Pub generally has a lower technical barrier to entry, you can sign up with an email and a password on most servers. Outside of (upcoming) DiVine or using Frost Bunkers, there’s really no easy way to join Nostr without learning how to manage keys.
  • Standardization - Acitivity Pub has existed for the better part of a decade, and the protocol hasn’t changed much for a while. Nostr is not only newer, but breaks it’s functionality into various NIPs (rules on how to interpret posts of specific types, e.g. shortform text, longform text, livestreams, etc) of which there’s 100+ official ones (and plenty of unnofocial ones).
• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  There’s a couple different implementations that might be interesting to cover, depending on what you had in mind:

  Friendica, Hubzilla, and Streams all support Activity Pub but focus more on a Facebook style social media instead of a standard microblogging platform.

  Writefreely, Plume, Wordpress (via plugin), and Ghost (via plugin) all support activity pub and focus on long form content.

  Peertube focuses on longform video, Loops on shortform video, and Funkwhale on audio based content.

  There’s also bridges from Activity Pub to AT (Bluesky) and Nostr as well.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨What do you guys think about Polyproto?⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Looks like a cross between Zot and Nostr. It looks like it’s got some interesting features, namely the key based identities, easy migration, and it being designed around implementing custom features into the protocol while hopefully remaining compatible with other poly servers.

  But I’m not really sure there’d be too much of a point in using it. Zot, Nostr, and AT (Bluesky) both already have the former two - with Nostr having the latter as well, and AT having a limited amount of the latter (Lexicons add flexibility but break compatibility). Although I only skimmed through the docs I can’t see features big enough that would make someone implement polyproto over using an existing protocol that already has a userbase.

  It might be handy as a server that is centered around polyproto, but compatible with other software (kind of like how Friendica isn’t actually activity pub, but bridges things internally). That way you’d get the benefits of polyproto when talking with others on poly, while still being able to communicate with others on other protocols. But it doesn’t look like they’re aiming for that - I’m not a cryptography expert, but they’re using X.509-based keys. Both Nostr and AT use secp256k1, so had they used those you’d be able to use the same identity across multiple platforms (even if the posts had to be bridged/translated since the json formatting would be different).

  If you’re looking for a central home server, private key powered accounts hidden behind a domain based username, the ability to instantly migrate servers, and a protocol that supported heavy customization, I’d recommend looking into ditto. It’s built on Nostr, but it’s built around being a more Activity Pub style home server (and it even works with Mastodon API capable clients). Ditto is nearly 1:1 with what it looks like polyproto wants to build, and it already exists right now on a protocol with an active userbase, so I’m not quite sure what the goal would be in making another protocol.

  Or maybe I’m just being dumb and there’s more to polyproto than I realize.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Are people blind on PeerTube?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Like others have said, it’s way more resource intensive than text based systems. Even discounting higher res vids, if you go to any random larger YT channel and download all their videos in 144p 480p and 720p it’ll be quite a lot larger than you might expect. Sure, if you’re serious about it you could get an array of hard drives and a small server, but you’re talking hundreds of bucks and lots of upkeep. Outsource it to a VPS and AWS buckets and you’ve still got upkeep but now you’ve added an extra 0 to your bill.

  There’s not enough charitable nerds on the internet to host even a fraction of 1% of Youtube. It’s even worse if self hosting instances is pushed. Even as a fellow tech nerd, no way I’m hosting my own instance just so I can share a video once in a blue moon. Something that always gets my goat in fediverse discourse is when people always jump to saying something along the lines of “just host your own” then wonder why AP went from ~2.5M users to 0.8M users.

  There’s also some Fediverse specific issues that hold back a more mainstream audience. There’s some fringe political stuff on both sides of the isle which can pretty easily scare off people, and defederation combined with peertube’s more siloed approach makes discovery near nil. (can’t see content from remote peertube instances unless somebody has already subscribed to that channel on the remote instance from your local instance AFAIK).

  Then there’s the new platform (or in this case many platforms connected via one protocol) issues. Lack of users, limited/no monetization, limited development/support, and very few pros + a lot of cons at first glance from somebody who doesn’t consider tech a hobby and is comparing it to established platforms.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any fediverse like discord clones?⁩ ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  While it’s probably not exactly what you’re looking for, I wanted to give vibe coding a try and wound up making a discord like client if you think it might be handy. It’s not actually a chat server, it’s just a client that uses a chat style layout to display posts under the mastodon api.