JiveTurkey

Yeah I think the point is that if your gaming the console hardware is there in the form of VRAM so needing 16gb for windows alone, then 16 additional for a game on top of the VRAM. It doesn’t add up. A 25-35% bumb when everything became 64bit is understandable but let’s not pretend that it can’t be done with much less.

From windows 7 to 11 all of that was possible with 16gb of ram. And if you had a spreadsheet hitting a wall I would probably say Excel was the wrong app altogether.

I disagree. Linux 10 years ago maybe but Linux today out of the box is very capable and stable. Windows on the other hand has had its fair share of instability and enshittification. I won’t say Linux is for everyone because I understand the edge cases and some people just like what they already know but it’s never been closer to matching windows and doing so with more privacy, security, and efficiency than windows.

Aside from all of that when I think about the changes from windows 7 to windows 11 the only meaningful thing that stands out is a UI facelift. How did we go from 8gb handling the OS and playing games 10 years ago to saying 16gb is what we need for regular tasks but 32gb is what you really want for gaming on top of GPUs also having twice the ram they used to. I just feel like we are all trying to make excuses for M$ and I’m done with it. Ignoring their BS requirements for TPMs and secure boot which they’ve pushed into the gaming market and allowed gaming companies to have kernel level access to our machines and abandon perfectly good hardware because it doesn’t meet this BS requirement.

I think the point is that these requirements are the result of poor software development and windows as a whole. Consoles manage just fine with less than 16GB and that’s a shared pool between GPU and CPU. M$ Windows is bloated and developers have seemingly given up on optimization.