Earlier in the podcast, Rogan took issue with the perception of himself as right-wing “because I look right-wing and because I did kind of help Trump.” (Rogan’s interview with Trump before the 2024 election and last-minute endorsement of him were credited with helping the Republican to victory.)

“I’ve been left-wing my whole life,” Rogan continued. “I have very left-wing views on a lot of things. But I also recognize when government is taking over our lives. And what we were sold with the Trump administration would be that would end and it would be ‘drain the swamp.’ Obviously, it’s not been ideal in that regard.”