Submitted 10 months ago by logir@feddit.it to selfhosted@lemmy.world
I have recently repurposed and old Hp Stream to a home server and successfully run Immich. I really like it and even a small 500GB disk is way more than the 15GB Google offers.
My issue though is about backup. I would only be comfortable if all the data is backed up in an off-site server (cloud). But the back up storage will probably cost as much as paying for a service like ente or similar, directly replacing Google photo.
What am I missing? Where do you store your backup?
I use Backblaze B2 for my backups. Storing about 2tb, comes out to about $10/mo, which is on par with Google One pricing. However, I get the benefit of controlling my data, and I use it for tons more than just photos (movies/shows etc).
If you want a cheaper solution and have somewhere else you can store off-site (e.g. family/friend’s house), you can probably use a raspberry pi to make a super cheap backup solution.
If you have 1tb+ of data you can get a cheaper option just by moving to hetzner
This is exactly what I was looking for last night, thank you!
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| LVM | (Linux) Logical Volume Manager for filesystem mapping |
| RAID | Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage |
| VPN | Virtual Private Network |
| ZFS | Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity |
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There was a good blog post about the real cost of storage, but I can’t find it now.
The gist was that to store 1TB of data somewhat reliably, you probably need at least:
Which amounts to something like 6TB of disk for 1TB of actual data. In real life you’d probably use some other level of RAID, at least for larger amounts so it’s perhaps not as harsh, and compression can reduce the required backup space too.
I have around 130G of data in Nextcloud, and the off-site borg repo for it is about 180G. Then there’s local backups on a mirrored HDD, with the ZFS snapshots that are not yet pruned that’s maybe 200G of raw disk space. So 130G becomes 510G in my setup.
Backblaze B2 is 6$ a month for 1TB and first 10GB is free. You pay proportionally (it cost me 2-3$ for last 7-8 months for 20-150 GB that accumulated over time). Keep in mind that you will spend more if you download backup, but you should use cloud backup as last resort anyway. I backup to 2nd local disk and also to B2 daily with Kopia. Didnt need backup fortunately, downloading from B2 small files ocasionally just for testing setup
Its not just cheaper, I love it because I dont have to deal with Gshit company
I bought a Synology that I keep at my in-laws, then use Syncthing to keep my pictures backed up. I just started, so I don’t know how it will go long term.
If anyone else has a better option than Syncthing for Linux to Synology, I would love to hear it.
I use backlaze on my synology. I backup photos automatically to it with their built in app on my phone, then every night I run encryped backups. I also could setup an encrypted backup to go to my parent’s synology.
My backup is about 900gb and costs <$5/mo. That is my music, pictures, movies, and TV shows. Obviously that will increase, but well worth the nominal coat to have that much backup encrypted and in the cloud.
Do you use B2 storage?
I do. And since I’ve been slowly taking back control over all my online stuff as much as I can, I’m very happy with it. It gives me peace of mind it’s secure and I am super unlikely to just lose it.
For me the answer is that I need off site backup anyway for stuff like important digital documents, passwords and more. For me a dedicated storage provider I trust far more than Google/Apple/Microsoft which all have a financial interest in understanding me and my patterns to better sell additional services too me. So I use Dropbox but if you’re more technically inclined and have a lot of data then something akin to say Wasabi could make financial sense.
I have a 2N+C backup strategy. I have two NASes, and I use rclone to backup my data from one NAS to the other, and then backup (with encryption) my data to Amazon S3. I have a policy on that bucket in S3 that shoves all files into Glacier Deep Archive at day 0, so I pay the cheapest rate possible.
For example, I’m storing just shy of 400GB of personal photos and videos in one particular bucket, and that’s costing me about $0.77USD per month. Pennies.
Yes, it’ll cost me a lot more to pull it out and, yes, it’ll take a day or two to get it back. But it’s an insurance policy I can rely on and a (future) price I’m willing to pay should the dire day (lost both NASes, or worse) ever arrive when I need it.
Why Amazon S3? I’m in Australia, and that means local access is important to me. We’re pretty far from most other places around the world. It means I can target my nearest AWS region with my rclone jobs and there’s less latency. Backblaze is a great alternative, but I’m not in the US or Europe. Admittedly, I haven’t tested this theory, but I’m willing to bet that in-country speeds are still a lot quicker than any CDN that might help get me into B2.
Also, something others haven’t yet mentioned is, per Immich’s guidance on their repo (Dislacimer right at the top) is not NOT rely on Immich as your sole backup. Immich is under very active development, and breaking changes are a real possibility all the time right now.
I use SyncThing to also backup all my photos and videos to my NAS, and that’s also backed up to the other NAS and S3. That’s why I have nearly 400GB of photos and videos - it’s effectively double my actual library size. But, again, at less than a buck a month to store all that, I don’t really mind duoble-handling all that data, for the peace of mind I get.
pCloud sells itself as a privacy-focused alternative to Dropbox, Google, iCloud, etc. They’re running a deal right now on lifetime accounts, too.
Never trust a company selling lifetime accounts. It’s entirely unsustainable and eventually the other shoe always drops.
butitsnotme@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I backup to a external hard disk that I keep in a fireproof and water resistant safe at home. Each service has its own LVM volume which I snapshot and then backup the snapshots with borg, all into one repository. The backup is triggered by a udev rule so it happens automatically when I plug the drive in; the backup script uses ntfy.sh (running locally) to let me know when it is finished so I can put the drive back in the safe. I can share the script later, if anyone is interested.
StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Please! That sounds like a slick setup.
RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
I am super curious about the udev triggering, didn’t know thats possible!
governorkeagan@lemdro.id 10 months ago
I would love to see your script! I’m in desperate need of a better backup strategy for my video projects
Nilz@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
This sounds really interesting, please share.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Fireproof safes don’t protect against heat except what’s high enough to combust paper. Temps will still probably be high enough to destroy a drive with a regular fireproof safe.