Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
China poised to break 5nm barrier — Huawei lists 5nm processor presumably built with SMIC tech, defying U.S. sanctions | Huawei and SMIC quietly rolled out a new Kirin 9000C processor.::Chinese foundry SMIC may have broken the 5nm process barrier, as evidenced by a new Huawei laptop listed with an advanced chip with 5nm manufacturing tech — a feat previously thought impossible due to U.S sanctions.
Get ready for a CPU that costs 1/10 of an AMD CPU!
With proportionate quality control.
Yes, Just like those awful iphones they also make.
I think i understand some of the words on that article, but here’s my question, why does the US think that another country cannot recreate these products? Or is it that they don’t want to accept the fact that it can be done without their knowledge/expertise/input? Again, this is coming from someone who doesn’t know anything about the chip making process but is interested in the idea that other countries do have the resources, intelligence, and most of all the money to create such chips? Is the chip making process such a difficult thing that the US expects no other country to do it? (serious question)
This kind of super high tech manufacturing is something that only a couple companies in the world can do. And they can only do it by using machines and technology from all over the, “western”, world.
If China wants to replicate that, they would need to create everything from scratch, since they wont have access to the knowledge, technology, machines and manufacturing techniques the other(taiwanese and korean) companies have access to.
This is a matter of time and money. Obviously at some point China would succeed as long as there is political will and funding. But there is a difference between China succeeding within the next 3 years or within the next 15 years.
If these claims are true(and it is a big IF), China is way ahead than expected.
No other country in the world can do it alone. The US cant and isnt producing high end chips. But thats because it didnt need to, since their allies are doing it. But because the situation in Taiwan is becoming hotter, both the US and the EU are inviting companies(tsmc and Intel) to create factories in their lands.
This is a good take on the situation.
Thank you for your perspective. Why is this a big IF? Wouldn’t China have seen the writing on the wall years ago? 20-30 years ago that their path was going to put them at odds with western countries? I get that developing new chips takes years, maybe decades, but hasn’t China had that time already? Is is possible that intel provided to western countries such as what the US currently knows of China could be behind to what they are building? The US has done great things in secret, developed a lot of technology under their military resources, is it too hard to believe that China, and maybe others have done the same and have been able to keep it a secret as well? After all, many new technologies could be considered national security. Maybe I’m just naive, dumb, or have been watching too many movies but i find it hard to believe that China has become a super power in many aspects, one of them their intelligence capital, yet western countries are still surprised at what they can achieve or produce.
alienanimals@lemmy.world 11 months ago
US “poised” to create the death star. Is it going to happen anytime soon?
No. But it could be “poised” to happen.
Lazy ass reporting.