Barack Obama: “For elevator music, AI is going to work fine. Music like Bob Dylan or Stevie Wonder, that's different”

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• solidsnake2085@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  He’s obviously never heard “I’m still standing” by Adolf Hitler.

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  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hadn’t before reading this comment either, which prompted me to look for it on YouTube.

    Of course, Adolf Hitler couldn’t actually speak English, and the English generated by that doesn’t sound very much like a native speaker of Austrian German would normally speak English. I am a native speaker of Austrian German and if I sing “I’m Still Standing” it doesn’t sound like that at all.

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  • nx2@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Those are just voice replacements

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• hark@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “AI can’t do [thing]” *AI does thing* “Well AI can’t do [other thing]” *AI does other thing* “Yeah, well AI doesn’t have soul (or some other nebulous thing)”

  We can’t just dismiss rapidly improving AI and ignore the coming consequences. Things like “soul” or any other element that is considered human never mattered when it came to commercial music. A lot of radio hits are quickly-produced trash, with perhaps a catchy tune, and little in the way of meaningful lyrics. If it’s considered “good enough” (i.e. it makes money) then that’s all that is needed for a company. Don’t fool yourself into thinking the artistry ever mattered in this context.

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is the reality a lot of people don’t want to face, a huge amount of popular music is just established patterns put together in the way music school teaches is the right way then pushed with endless hype from the money hungry corporations.

    We are absolutely going to see a kid in his bedroom use AI to make a concept album that resonates with people and garners popular acclaim - I don’t know when it will happen but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s this decade.

    People used to say that same nonsence about samplers and drum machines, it’s the same trend as when people said Shakespeare isn’t poetry because he hadn’t been trained in Latin and Greek enough or Cezanne wasn’t a real artist, or a million other times people have confidently declared we’re at the end of history and nothing new will ever be good.

    What people need to remember is when they see Rick Astley singing his heart out it’s lyrics written by Pete Waterman and music from session artists put together by university trained professionals to shift units - soulless music has been a thing for a long time and no one ever cared before.

    Obsessive kids have been making great music in their bedroom for decades now, aphex twin gets industry acclaime for twiddling some knobs and so will whoever gets popular doing the equivalent interesting things with AI.

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• rivermonster@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  LOL the guy who believed he could work with Republicans over and over after they Charlie browned him with the football, stole his court oick, and made him into a joke… his opinion and track record of being wrong on every bet he made matters why?

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• 5BC2E7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I suppose I’m happy that he is no longer president if he has strong opinions on topics he is clueless.

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  • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think they’re strong opinions

    People often get asked to weigh in on things, and then news headlines run with the responses. Sure everyone could say “I don’t know enough so I won’t say anything”, but that’s a little unproductive.

    I find it annoying especially when some news agency asks a loaded question, and then regardless of the response they have some story to run with

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• gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  LMAO, what an absolutely god awful take.

  Ill see you in 2 years when we have our first AI Grammy winner

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• Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean Obama is not wrong, but I hope the rest of his thoughts are that it will be as good as the artists he quoted as it absolutely will one day. Unsure when as there is an uncanny valley to cross. He did say this right and it was not just a get off my front lawn comment…right?

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  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He’s wrong in the sense that Bob Dylan and Stevie Wonder are just as much cultural reflections as they are artists. Popular art and celebrity are effectively inseparable. This is why each generation often doesn’t “get” the popular art of others.

    The reality is that there’s nothing stopping an AI from becoming a celebrity, and I’m a bit surprised it hasn’t happened yet. Once that happens, the art it produces will be lauded, and people who are not the direct participants in mainstream popular culture will be confused and in some cases upset by it. And the wheel will continue to turn.

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    • Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Very good points. Art is in the eye/ear of the beholder sort of thing and our taste is for sure influenced by our culture/generation.

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