Hopefully it’s less people sucked into doing bullshit degrees and having nothing to show for it at the end except debt. I would argue a lot of jobs don’t actually need a degree and people could simply be trained on the job.
Number of Australians enrolled in bachelor degrees falls by 12% in less than a decade
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Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 11 months ago
my job is a prime example. having a degree was a requirement but I don’t use anything I learnt and can’t even remember anything at this point. I just learnt on the job. the only benefit might be having a degree might make you quicker to train and encourage a degree of critical thinking and innovation, but its not like you need a degree for that stuff either
CalamityJoe@aussie.zone 11 months ago
It’s simply less value for money these days. And government economic policy over the last 30 years has made it very clear they believe universities are more a personal empowerment vehicle, rather than a national benefit (through having a higher proportion of the population university educated).
On one hand, it’s become common knowledge having a degree doesn’t automatically get you a decent job, let alone a decent job, like many millennials and gen y were socialised to believe.
On the other hand, the quality of teaching has gone down, while the user-pays cost, even if it’s via HECS, has gone up substantially, at the same time that people know it’s going to be extremely hard to save up to buy a home these days, even with access to the bank of Mum and Dad.
Many younger people have given up on the feasibility of owning their own home till mum or dad dies, so there’s less push for those people to spend money and time on increasing their earning power. That dream of earning your own home on your own effort is very much dying.
Additionally, those that are still inclined to earn enough to afford their own home, are having to judge whether the larger HECS loans, and mandatory repayments, will affect their ability to take out and pay off the larger loans now needed to buy a home.
Our university system has Americanised to a much more user-pays system, where students are expected to take on larger loans (even if it’s HECS), as the government has continually withdrawn or starved funding for the sector over 30 odd years, and universities have responded by casualising its workforce, and getting rid of tenure for academics, so that the standard of teaching has fallen badly.
Not to mention the implementation of a private company-style economic model for universities, so at the same time as being starved of funding, they’re being encouraged to chase international students to make up that funding, which has affected academic integrity badly, and redirected funding from the quality of their teaching and academics, to more flashy but extremely expensive capital investments like new buildings and facilities. Which are nice if the money is available, but generally it’s come from badly-needed areas elsewhere within the University.
Imagine if a new funding model was proposed for our hospitals, where government reduced overall funding, but hospitals could make up the shortfall by advertising and encouraging international patients to have treatment with them. Obviously the quality and availability of treatment for domestic patients would suffer to some degree, as focus would go towards attracting international patients to help pay for those domestic patients. But it would be very easy for hospitals to lose focus on the big picture, and instead begin to see attracting international patients as the end goal, rather than a means to make treatment for available to more domestic patients.
Many classes are taught by PhD candidates or recent graduates, who are on insecure semester to semester contracts, often signed only weeks before a semester begins, and there are reports many are expected to only allocate, (or at least, will only be paid for) 10 minutes or less per student essay, and 5 minutes or less for other assessments. What sort of valid individualised feedback and recommendations for improvement can you give within that timeframe?
thisisnotcoincedence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
For those of us who can afford for University, it feels like extortion as I paid almost $5k for one semester for my Masters. I can only imagine how it must feel for the kids just coming out of High school and now have to incur hex. Are we becoming Americanized?
CalamityJoe@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I’m going to assume it’s an autocorrect issue, but just for those not familiar with Australia’s university student funding system and want to websearch it, it’s HECS, not hex.
thisisnotcoincedence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Yes, thank you for that, it was autocorrect as usual.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 11 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The dwindling enrolment rates come as the Universities Accord interim report estimates that, by 2050, about 55% of jobs will require higher education qualifications.
At the same time, Norton questioned why the federal government was touting the 55% figure in the first place, adding it was “based on a consultant’s report” and “wasn’t credible” to assume policy experts knew what the job market would look like in 2050.
Melbourne University’s latest Taking the Pulse of the Nation report, released in late October, found financial barriers were the greatest obstruction to young Australians pursuing higher education.
The deputy dean in the faculty of education at Monash University, Prof Lucas Walsh, said early trends since the pandemic suggested young people were bearing the brunt of the cost of living crisis, which may be dissuading them from carrying debts.
Its annual Australian Youth Barometer, released on Monday, found nine in 10 young people had experienced financial stress in the past year and just over half agreed education had prepared them for the future.
“It’s also coming amid a slow decline in year 12 equivalent completion – young people are working more and in multiple jobs but less inclined towards formal education.”
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morry040@kbin.social 11 months ago
Seems to be a logical choice, particularly when the universities are moving away from hiring staff based on merit. The unis will end up with a bunch of underqualified lecturers teaching to the only students able to afford the degrees (international students).
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-17/qut-defends-removing-merit-from-hiring-policy/103114562Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Lol I’m a phd candidate at that university. I think they’re doing this to look woke. This is a thing universities do to try and hide the fact that they are super conservative institutions.
It’s a bit more complex than this. Most lecturers are qualified, they’re just on insecure casual contracts. Try delivering high equality education knowing you’re on a contract that may or may not be extended. There’s also a gtowing pressure to pass students. This comes from both management and the students themselves. A lot of students feel like they’ve purchased the right to a passing grade. I no longer give students positive feedback because if I do they’ll think it means I should have given them a higher grade.
The merit required for most academic roles is almost inhumanely high. You generally need a phd, publications, conference presentations, extensive teaching experience, and evidence of professional service (peer reviewing, committee memberships etc - often unpaid). In the more practical based degrees (which is where I teach) the hiring criteria may be more focused on industry experience. So these fields may have some non-phd qualified lecturers. Many unit coordinators also do get their phd students to do tutoring (some even lecturing) but this has always been the case and you’ve got to learn to teach somehow.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Has it got something to do with the stress of University, not being able to work meaningful hours while not receiving any support from government or HECs or fear of massive HECS debts?
dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 11 months ago
HECS dept and career outcomes definitely a factor.